A person on curezone suggested I post my issues here also because he said some of you may be familiar with my particular type of history and/or the supps I am currently taking.
I was wondering if anyone could possibly answer somequestions I have. Just a bit of background. 55 year old male, 5'8" 195 lbswith some decent muscle mass from lifting. Need to drop about 10-15 lbs. I suffer from a lethargic depression. I'm notlow seretonin...I'm low Dopamine/NE. Stimulant type substances help me the bestfor my depression. I have no anxiety andhave no sleep issues. Don't have a problem getting out of bed every morning butthe depression lives on. I am also lowcortisol but not to a great degree. I'm not currently on anyantidepressant. Years ago I tried plentyand Wellbutrin seemed to help the best. I don't want to do the antidepressant route again. Tried in the pastSAM-e, and SJW with no real effect. Alsodid DLPA and L-Tyrosine before..helped some but didn't want to do long termbecause of down regulation issues and having to take either L-Tryptophan or 5HTPat night along with it. Both of these make me feel worse. Many years ago Iintentionally sleep deprived myself and it DID "lift" mydepression..albeit only temporarily until I fell back into regular sleepingpatterns and my depression returned. Obviously sleep deprivation is not a longer term solution. We need our sleep. Actually the past 2 yearsit seems I also have SAD. Didn't noticeit was a problem before until it started a couple years ago. This year Inoticed it happening only a few days after we turned the clocks back..so I'mthinking SAD is also an issue.
Currently these are the supps I'm doing -
Multi Vit/Mineral liquid
ACV with baking soda
Malic acid 2400-3200mg per day and does seem to give me abit more energy and seems to sustain more energy when I workout.
Rhodiola <Siberian> from New Chapter. 2 caps 300mg each per day.
Methylene Blue - diluted properly according to earthclinicinstructions.
Vit C- 2000mg's per day that I get taking it in water withmy MB
I tried MB on it's own and Rhodiola on it's own before. Each helped some but still no antidepressanteffect from either so I decided to try together which I am doing now. I amseeing "somewhat" of a combined effect but I feel like I need to"push it" higher..not with the Rhodiola but with the MB. Actually Ihave gotten an added effect with the Rhodiola with losing 5 pounds in just a littleunder 2 weeks. Dropping another 10-15 would be ideal for me. Currently I haveworked myself up to 16 drops of MB in the morning and 12 drops no later thanmid-afteroon. I suffer no adverseeffects from this kind of dosage with no "being wired" effects and noeffect from keeping me from sleeping. It might be a very high dose for othersbut it doesn't seem so for me. These aremy questions....
1) Does anyone knowif I am getting any MAOI effects from the MB at the 16 drops dosage? And ifnot..how high would I have to push those drops to get desired MAOI effects andif so, would it be safe to do so? Takingalso into account the other supps I am taking.
2) Currently I am cycled off of licorice root extract. This does seem to help me some with keepingcortisol in my system longer. Would itbe better to add this into my stack of MB and Rhodiola for an added effectrather than going higher on the MB drops, and..is licorice root extract evensafe to take with MB and Rhodiola? Ialso have tried Rehmannia before because I heard it also might have the sameeffects as LRE but the LRE seemed to do better for me but I do know I need tocycle on and off with it.
3) OR can anyonesuggest maybe adding something else other than the LRE to my stack of MB and Rhodiola?
I don't know if any of you have taken any of these combo'sto even comment on it but I'm just throwing it out there to see if any of youhave any comments on this.
One last thing. I amalso doing a light box in case SAD is playing a big part in this. It is a goLITE model Philips brand and onlymaybe 7" wide by 7" tall. Doesanyone know if this is a strong enough unit for me or do I maybe need more ofan "industrial strength" model? Atleast it is small enough that I canput it next to my computer when I hop on it in the morning.
I will also add because I was asked this about my Vit D levels. Last time I had them tested was about 3 years ago and at that time I was taking Vit D3 and I tested on the high end of the range..around 80 and still had my depression at that time. I'm thinking Vit D is not an issue with me..although it would not hurt to have it tested again. Currently I am not taking Vit D3. That's all I got. Thanks for listening.