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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostfaceKillah View Post
    This is a novel guess. Can you expound on what specifically is extracted?

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    not all that novel... its in Recreate...

    I wouldnt know whats being extracted from it considering I thought it was the name for extracts from green coffee beans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    not all that novel... its in Recreate...

    I wouldnt know whats being extracted from it considering I thought it was the name for extracts from green coffee beans...
    You're on the cusp, but we are looking for what specific compound or compounds are extracted. Almost there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattj913 View Post
    Second guess today, green tea extract?
    Also on the cusp! A little too general for what we are looking for.
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    h t t p : / / w w w . brenda-enzymes.org/literature/lit.php4?e=1.1.1.146&r=668636

    Coffea arabica fruit extract, corresponding to an italian espresso, inhibits recombinant and endogenous isozyme 11beta-HSD1 in HEK-293 cells up by 80% at 2% of extract, the inhibitory component is heat-stable with considerable polarity, extract blocks 11beta-HSD1-dependent cortisol formation in vivo preventing the subsequent nuclear translocation of the glucocorticoid receptor and abolishes glucocorticoid-induced expression of the key gluconeogenic enzyme phosphoenolpyruvate carboxykinase, at least part of the anti-diabetic effects of coffee consumption is due to inhibition of 11beta-HSD1-dependent glucocorticoid reactivation, overview, the inhibitory effect on isozyme 11beta-HSD1 is 7-10fold higher compared to isozyme 11beta-HSD2

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    ok so im guessing....

    Coffea arabica extracted for caffeine .... AND.... (next post)

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    Coffea arabica extracted for Polysaccharides

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Coffea arabica extracted for Polysaccharides
    Polysaccharides from hot water extracts of roasted Coffea arabica beans: isolation and characterization
    L. Navarini, R. Gilli, V. Gombac, A. Abatangelo, M. Bosco, R. Toffanin

    Abstract

    A polysaccharide fraction was obtained from the hot water extract of defatted ground dark roasted coffee (pure Coffea arabica blend for espresso brewing technique) by means of classical precipitation methods. This high molecular weight (〈Mw〉=10  900 Da) product was shown to be composed of mannose, galactose, arabinose and traces of proteinaceous material. Further fractionation yielded two different carbohydrate polymers, which were structurally characterized. One polysaccharide was identified as a β-d-(1-4) mannan containing small amounts of galactose and arabinose. The second polysaccharide, obtained in low yield after removal of the mannose-containing polymeric material, was identified as an arabinogalactan. The starting fraction was found to be composed of about 80% (mol basis) of mannan and of about 20% of arabinogalactan. 13C-NMR spectra revealed that the arabinogalactan has a backbone chain of β-(1-3)-d-galactopyranose units. Some of these units were substituted with either terminal β-d-galactose or terminal α-l-arabinofuranose side chains mainly in C-6 position. Both the mannan and the arabinogalactan isolated are structurally related to the polysaccharides originally present in the green coffee beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostfaceKillah View Post
    Also on the cusp! A little too general for what we are looking for.
    More detail for green tea extract.
    Grean tea polyphenols?

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    DHEA


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    DHEA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Coffea arabica extracted for Polysaccharides
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    h t t p : / / w w w . brenda-enzymes.org/literature/lit.php4?e=1.1.1.146&r=668636

    Coffea arabica fruit extract, corresponding to an italian espresso, inhibits recombinant and endogenous isozyme 11beta-HSD1 in HEK-293 cells up by 80% at 2% of extract, the inhibitory component is heat-stable with considerable polarity, extract blocks 11beta-HSD1-dependent cortisol formation in vivo preventing the subsequent nuclear translocation of the glucocorticoid receptor and abolishes glucocorticoid-induced expression of the key gluconeogenic enzyme phosphoenolpyruvate carboxykinase, at least part of the anti-diabetic effects of coffee consumption is due to inhibition of 11beta-HSD1-dependent glucocorticoid reactivation, overview, the inhibitory effect on isozyme 11beta-HSD1 is 7-10fold higher compared to isozyme 11beta-HSD2
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    ok so im guessing....

    Coffea arabica extracted for caffeine .... AND.... (next post)
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Polysaccharides from hot water extracts of roasted Coffea arabica beans: isolation and characterization
    L. Navarini, R. Gilli, V. Gombac, A. Abatangelo, M. Bosco, R. Toffanin

    Abstract

    A polysaccharide fraction was obtained from the hot water extract of defatted ground dark roasted coffee (pure Coffea arabica blend for espresso brewing technique) by means of classical precipitation methods. This high molecular weight (〈Mw〉=10  900 Da) product was shown to be composed of mannose, galactose, arabinose and traces of proteinaceous material. Further fractionation yielded two different carbohydrate polymers, which were structurally characterized. One polysaccharide was identified as a β-d-(1-4) mannan containing small amounts of galactose and arabinose. The second polysaccharide, obtained in low yield after removal of the mannose-containing polymeric material, was identified as an arabinogalactan. The starting fraction was found to be composed of about 80% (mol basis) of mannan and of about 20% of arabinogalactan. 13C-NMR spectra revealed that the arabinogalactan has a backbone chain of β-(1-3)-d-galactopyranose units. Some of these units were substituted with either terminal β-d-galactose or terminal α-l-arabinofuranose side chains mainly in C-6 position. Both the mannan and the arabinogalactan isolated are structurally related to the polysaccharides originally present in the green coffee beans.
    Good guesses. One of these is partially there. That study on the effect of coffee extract on selective inhibition of 11b-HSD1 is pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattj913 View Post
    More detail for green tea extract.
    Grean tea polyphenols?
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    Cool contest app nut. Btw welcome to the board!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackedcop View Post
    Cool contest app nut. Btw welcome to the board!
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    evodiamine extract

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    DHEA ......

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    3,3 Diiodo L-Thyronine?
    That is my official WELCOME TO M&M guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck View Post
    DHEA


    I cheated...
    DHEA is a winner! By "cheated" I assume you mean you were resourceful in your research. Since you were the first person to guess DHEA, you get to claim the prize. Please PM me your shipping info.

    To others who ventured DHEA, good guess but a little too late. Still five ingredients left, which means five more prizes to claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwert View Post
    evodiamine extract
    Nope. You get one more guess today, though!

    Quote Originally Posted by FL3XMAGNUM View Post
    3,3 Diiodo L-Thyronine?
    That is my official WELCOME TO M&M guess
    This has been popping up in a lot of newer thermogenics, but it's not in this one. Good guess!
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