Lower back pain

[Benson]

Not that I don't enjoy the back pain discussion in my log but it was starting to seem hauntingly familiar...this thread is why...

[ozzman]

LOL I thought so....



I still haven't found the connection between phenibut and low back pain. I did find, however that phenibut is cardioprotective when taken with alcohol. In particular, it prevents problems associated with drinking alcohol and cardiac problems.



I also found some stuff on substance P and phenibut, as phenibut dulls the pain sensation. Could be one of those rebound actions after taking it, like the irritability one experiences afterwards

[GhostfaceKillah]

A lot of this sounds like a back problem I have been dealing with off-and-on (mostly on...) for the last 8 months.

[Benson]

Note post 11 above and the vitamin D/back pain connection...

[GhostfaceKillah]

Note post 11 above and the vitamin D/back pain connection...

Yeah, that caught my eye. I also recall seeing something about isotretinoin and vitamin D levels, and wonder if the two are linked.

[t_rizzle07]

Make sure and strengthen your abs too - that will help give your lower back more stability and take some stress off of it. Also pay attention to your posture. Try acupuncture and/or chiropractor to get away the pain, but practice preventive measures to keep it from coming back.

[GhostfaceKillah]

Before visiting the chiropractor, I recommend some imaging work to determine if any of your discs are bulged/herniated. A chiropractic adjustment could make thinks worse.

[GhostfaceKillah]

An update from me:



After experiencing severe pain when attempting even light bent-over rows for the first time since doing PT for my back, I decided to return to my doctor. After several x-rays, an MRI, and nerve tests, I was diagnosed with a bulging L5S1 that is slightly impinging on the sacral nerve roots. I visited a spine doctor who specializes in athletes, and he recommended a facet joint injection and additional physical therapy.

[billm311]

Similar, however, not in the same location according to how you describe it. My pains are on the right side of my lower back where the top of my butt meets. The pain feels like the tensing of the muscle. Almost of if it's tensing up to compensate for some problem. My chiropractor told me hip was out in the past and it continued to pop out frequently. As you said about sitting, I as well can not sit properly for very long. I don't know why my hip would be out in the first place unless of course sitting could do this. The problem came when I first received my computer in 9th grade. I ended up spending a lot of time in that chair. My bed matress was also horrible. I have a newer one now, but it's still not something highly suitable for my body.



Within the last few months ever since my bulk started i've been doing hyper-extensions and good mornings. If i'm not mistaken my back has become stronger and the pain has somewhat dissipated. I always get an extra dose of the pain when I do Deadlifts or other exercises that can affect the back. I'm assuming this is common, though.

I have been having a very similar problem, a sharp pain at the lower end of back, but distinctly to the left side at the ass region. I have had a hip flexor injury a few years ago, and have been careful to stretch a lot and strengthen the area. I would have to say I am relatively strong in the lower back, and legs, so this took me by surprise. I tweaked it so bad that I aggravated a nerve and had symptoms of sciatica (aka, left leg immobile for 2 days, on and off aggravation for two weeks). I placed myself on the 15 day DL for softball league, but have been practicing and working out.



I didnt get it checked out, but if someone has a lead, it would be nice....

[GhostfaceKillah]

My bilateral facet joint injection didnt provide any relief, so rather than proceed with any additional invasive procedures, I am focusing now on physical therapy. I've been working on tightening up my core significantly (even though it has always been solid) and stretching out my hamstrings in a manner that doesn't also torque my back. My physical therapist told me that, in the event of a lower back injury, the hamstrings tend to tighten up to help pull the pelvis in and keep the back more neutral when in a standing position. The downside is that any bending over motion will transfer more stress to the lower back, because the hams are too tight.

[ozzman]

yup...that's what I have..My hams are way to tight...no bulging joints, no problems with the spine...but as soon as I saw the X-Rays my spine curves to the left...overstretching the right side, which is where I get injured all the time

[turtle]

My bilateral facet joint injection didnt provide any relief, so rather than proceed with any additional invasive procedures, I am focusing now on physical therapy. I've been working on tightening up my core significantly (even though it has always been solid) and stretching out my hamstrings in a manner that doesn't also torque my back. My physical therapist told me that, in the event of a lower back injury, the hamstrings tend to tighten up to help pull the pelvis in and keep the back more neutral when in a standing position. The downside is that any bending over motion will transfer more stress to the lower back, because the hams are too tight.

how'd you do this?

[PugRampage]

Ive struggled with a bad lower back and sciatic nerve issues ever since i fell out of a 2nd story window when i was 12 y/o (sneaking out of the house FAILURE).

Im 27 now and have found ways to keep a healthy back.
Step 1, cold showers daily with the shower head aimed at your lower back. This makes my lower back feel great for 24 hours until the next day, and then i do step 1 all over again.

Step 2... This one is embarrassing but never ever masturbate. This was hard for me to stop when i was single, but now that im married with kids, this is no problem.
My reason is, as i got older, whenever i would mastubate i would start getting lower back pain the next day, and if i consistentley doing it, i would get a "pull" in my sciatic nerve. That would hurt for like a week! Eventually i realized these were correlated in some way.

Plus......... Step 1 will actually help with step 2! Badumching!
Seriously though, step 1 keeps small aches and pains away and step 2 keeps me from having sciatic nerve issues.

I have no idea why this works, but it does for me.

[richardfun189]

i have been throught the same thing, no big problem, just get enough rest and maybe visit a chiropractor

[musclehead]

My brother has had a lower back problem for years now. He is sure he has a herniated disc but he will not know for sure until he has an MRI scan. The symptoms you describe sound very similar to his. I would seek a second opinion, if you haven't already.

[JeffdaChef]

I have very similar back pain, one thing I do to help is stretch EVERY morning and night, being flexible can help with almost any injury!

[Waynefire]

I have the same issue, but it is mainly from the fact that I broke my back and herniated 3 discs about 7 years ago. You should see a specialist for this type of pain because it can turn into something more major. However, it may be nothing major, just be careful when lifting if you are not seeing a doctor first.

[iGreek]

The best thing to do would be to strength your lower back obviously. Keep doing squats and dead, but lighter and make sure you're working on proper form. Good mornings are good for your lower back too.

[musclehead]

I agree, deadlifts and squats will strengthen the muscles around your spine. The deadlift is the best exercise for your back when executed correctly. It is an ancient, functional and natural exercise, man has been lifting objects from the floor since the beginning!