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JENNuh
So I'm sort of a newbie to fat burners, but I thought I would share my opinion of AMP2. I never tried the first AMP and have only been taking AMP2 for 4 days. I'm taking two in the morning and one in the late afternoon.

It provides clean energy without an insanely rapid heartbeat or shaky feeling. The euphoria is so good it seems like it should be illegal. It gives you a sort of buzz while every muscle in your body feels like its constantly maintaining that first morning stretch. It gave me endless energy at the gym and instead of feeling fatigued when nearing the end of my set, my muscles felt the euphoric stretching feeling each time they contracted. The feeling is similar to that of some lines of good yay--its pretty fucking awesome.

The "con's" are manageable and include, heartburn, dry mouth, potent smelling urine, and racing thoughts which made me anxious/stressed--call your doctor if you have thoughts of suicide smile.gif

I'll have to let you know how well it works as a fat burner but I do know I am definitely already addicted to it biggrin.gif
liorrh
I have real trouble relaxing on it and sleep quality is impaired. anyone else? PS I'm using AMPV1, is this the same with AMPV2?
D-termine
I got a chance to give this a whirl myself today with Jenna and we went for an impromptu jog on some rough terrain. I took 2 AMP2 about 45 mins prior with some food. After perhaps a 5 min jog, something that would normally wind me at the pace we went, I found my heart rate to drop back down to normal within seconds of cessation. Thats something no other stim ever does for me, so in that respect V2 is living up to its predecessors hype. I of course was hot as shit for the rest of the day, but perhaps not as awake and jolted as V1. I'll give it another whirl as well, but so far so good.

PS my girlfriend is dope smile.gif
D-termine
QUOTE (liorrh @ Jun 9 2008, 12:30 AM) *
I have real trouble relaxing on it and sleep quality is impaired. anyone else? PS I'm using AMPV1, is this the same with AMPV2?



I'm sure Jenna can comment on that, but what does your AMP regime look like?
liorrh
QUOTE (D-termine @ Jun 9 2008, 12:36 AM) *
I'm sure Jenna can comment on that, but what does your AMP regime look like?

one- two caps morning. usually one. extremely sensitive to stims(the result of being a past anorectic and also having low COMT and a ton of DAT, I think)
Heavy_Lifter85
Does tolerance develop with AMP 2.0?

EDIT: batmite answers this in the other thread.
ChemicalPA
the only problem with this stuff is the heartburn, which some people find unacceptable. this is due to the fursultiamine. i am going to tweak the next batch and bring the fursultiamine level down
JENNuh
QUOTE (ChemicalPA @ Jun 9 2008, 10:13 AM) *
the only problem with this stuff is the heartburn, which some people find unacceptable. this is due to the fursultiamine. i am going to tweak the next batch and bring the fursultiamine level down

yes the heartburn is insane


liorrh-i have not had problems sleeping at all on this, however I rarely have trouble getting to sleep no matter what I am taking/not taking.
FunkMasterFlex
my stomach is all good. Never had an issue, and I dont have a cast iron stomach. GOod energy. It is amazing to fight off fatigue. Although it did kind of worsen some inflammation possibly. Ill know On my 2nd run. I had in my knee, but whatever...that also could be other factors like hydration and humidity ( its 100degrees and 90% humid).
liorrh
PA I can't sleep on AMP1. I think the geranamanine HL is more than 24H. thoughts?
batmite
Heartburn is an issue when, after taking it, the capsule somehow stays in the "upper" portion of your stomach and gets broken down there. In such instances you can feel it and it is very uncomfortable. However, this must have happened to me only 2 times. You can easily avoid such situation if you take it and eat something to help it "go down", where it won't produce heartburn or take plenty of water to help it go down as well.

I think that those people feeling heartburn are taking it either on a completely empty stomach or they aren't "pushing" it deep enough in their stomachs. The latter seems more likely than the former, since I've taken it many times on an empty stomach with no problem whatsoever. It only gave me heartburn when I took it after lunch without pushing it with enough water and therefore it stayed somewhat in touch with the esophagus... as I said, when the capsule gets dissolved in that area you will feel a very strong heartburn, otherwise, if you have "gulped" it down enough you won't have any problem.

To be sure it won't produce heartburn, eat something in order to avoid an empty stomach and, in the middle of such meal, take the AMP2 and then continue eating the rest of the meal, so that it pushes it down enough; make sure to "gulp" it down with plenty water. Your heartburn issues will be history. Give it a try.
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (batmite @ Jun 9 2008, 01:11 PM) *
Heartburn is an issue when, after taking it, the capsule somehow stays in the "upper" portion of your stomach and gets broken down there. In such instances you can feel it and it is very uncomfortable. However, this must have happened to me only 2 times. You can easily avoid such situation if you take it and eat something to help it "go down", where it won't produce heartburn or take plenty of water to help it go down as well.

I think that those people feeling heartburn are taking it either on a completely empty stomach or they aren't "pushing" it deep enough in their stomachs. The latter seems more likely than the former, since I've taken it many times on an empty stomach with no problem whatsoever. It only gave me heartburn when I took it after lunch without pushing it with enough water and therefore it stayed somewhat in touch with the esophagus... as I said, when the capsule gets dissolved in that area you will feel a very strong heartburn, otherwise, if you have "gulped" it down enough you won't have any problem.

To be sure it won't produce heartburn, eat something in order to avoid an empty stomach and, in the middle of such meal, take the AMP2 and then continue eating the rest of the meal, so that it pushes it down enough; make sure to "gulp" it down with plenty water. Your heartburn issues will be history. Give it a try.



Fursultiamine, the culprit behind the heartburn, is water insoluble and oil soluble. that means it will float on top of your stomach contents pretty much as a dry powder. which means if you burp it is first to shoot up your esophagus. yuck.

probably a good idea to take the caps and then eat some food to sit on top of it. or milk (not skim) might help, cuz it has a little fat in it and it might help wet the fursultiamine and keep it down
JENNuh
QUOTE (batmite @ Jun 9 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Heartburn is an issue when, after taking it, the capsule somehow stays in the "upper" portion of your stomach and gets broken down there. In such instances you can feel it and it is very uncomfortable. However, this must have happened to me only 2 times. You can easily avoid such situation if you take it and eat something to help it "go down", where it won't produce heartburn or take plenty of water to help it go down as well.

I think that those people feeling heartburn are taking it either on a completely empty stomach or they aren't "pushing" it deep enough in their stomachs. The latter seems more likely than the former, since I've taken it many times on an empty stomach with no problem whatsoever. It only gave me heartburn when I took it after lunch without pushing it with enough water and therefore it stayed somewhat in touch with the esophagus... as I said, when the capsule gets dissolved in that area you will feel a very strong heartburn, otherwise, if you have "gulped" it down enough you won't have any problem.

To be sure it won't produce heartburn, eat something in order to avoid an empty stomach and, in the middle of such meal, take the AMP2 and then continue eating the rest of the meal, so that it pushes it down enough; make sure to "gulp" it down with plenty water. Your heartburn issues will be history. Give it a try.

thanks for the advice! the first time the heartburn was severe enough to bother me was this morning when I took it after I ate breakfast. Previously I had been taking it on an empty stomach and eating immediately after. I have acid reflux disease so I am prone to heartburn but I certainly will not be taking it after my meals anymore!
lethaljd
PA - you guys were handing out samples of AMP2 at the Arnold Expo this year, along with Clear Shot shooters and you created a lot of sweaty, agitated meat. I was on fire for the rest of the day, but I loved every second of it.
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (lethaljd @ Jun 9 2008, 03:46 PM) *
PA - you guys were handing out samples of AMP2 at the Arnold Expo this year, along with Clear Shot shooters and you created a lot of sweaty, agitated meat. I was on fire for the rest of the day, but I loved every second of it.



as if they were not sweaty and agitated enough being trapped in that sardine can they call an expo
FunkMasterFlex
I took two caps this morning. Along with LEF green tea. Man I am sweating like a blind lesbian in a tuna factory. huh.gif

Inflammation isnt an issue this morning. I guess its just that Im getting old, lol. I did notice a lil warm in the stomach. AMP def. turns on the digestive juices for me. I threw some greens food on top of it, and I was fine. Im planning on using this bottle to cut a lil weight, while getting me through my retail work week.

I am under asstistance in the anabolic dept. so my results may be skewed, but I feel as far as stim effect, and euphoria it is very similar to AMP v1. I just sweat a bit more, and get a lil jitter when taking first thing in the morning ( I WANT MY MONEY BACK, jk)
Frangible
QUOTE
Man I am sweating like a blind lesbian in a tuna factory.


You win the daily prize, sir.
Heavy_Lifter85
QUOTE (liorrh @ Jun 9 2008, 03:28 PM) *
PA I can't sleep on AMP1. I think the geranamanine HL is more than 24H. thoughts?


One Nutraplanet 60mg cap at 5:00 AM did not seem to affect sleep. I noticed the decongestant effect wore off by late evening, so 12+ hours (that's not the half life of course).

I believe this compound was once evaluated as a decongestant, so that HL data must be around, if you care enough to look.
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (Heavy_Lifter85 @ Jun 12 2008, 04:14 PM) *
One Nutraplanet 60mg cap at 5:00 AM did not seem to affect sleep. I noticed the decongestant effect wore off by late evening, so 12+ hours (that's not the half life of course).

I believe this compound was once evaluated as a decongestant, so that HL data must be around, if you care enough to look.


i made a decongestant nasal spray out of it. worked very well and really fast, but did not work real long like the ones you get in store
Jay Black
QUOTE (FunkMasterFlex @ Jun 10 2008, 09:21 AM) *
...Man I am sweating like a blind lesbian in a tuna factory. huh.gif

Frangie beat me to it, but man, does this line ever deserve a bump! laugh.gif
Pound4Pound
Is there any way to get a sample of AMP2?
D-termine
I'm sitting here with Jenna so I thought I would post up some feedback about her AMP experience. She ran it consecutively for 3 weeks, starting off and staying at 3 pills per day for the most part. 2 and 1 dosing began giving her heartburn problems, so she opted to go with a 1-1-1 dosing scheme that worked a lot better. She gave 4 pills a day a try, however it was a bit over-stimulating and cardio was giving her fits.

At the beginning of her run she started to calorie cycle, 1000, 1300, 1500 and 2000 calories, then repeat. The low cal days gave her some trouble, but she made it work. 2-3 days of weights and 3 days of cardio weekly. Poundages went up, and her body weight went down. In fact this is the lightest she has been in a very long time. It was a culmination of hard work, progression in her training, and of course a testament to AMP2's fat burning abilities. She went from 122lbs to 118lbs, her abs are poppin like crazy. She is finally beginning to get the pump and I don't think anyone is more stoked than I am about that.

All in all, I think it was a great run for her, and a solid product. Nothing has produced such amazing gains and losses for her, Clen and Sesathin included. Next on the list is some creatine, perhaps we shall stick with Ergopharm, nothing like a little brand loyalty.
DavidWebb
Anyone know when the revised AMP2 is coming? PA?
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (DavidWebb @ Jul 8 2008, 07:08 PM) *
Anyone know when the revised AMP2 is coming? PA?



the revised AMP2 with the less heartburn has been out for a few weeks. however the first lot is still out there too, so what you receive after ordering it is a crapshoot. the label looks the same, however the lot number will be different
djremix
QUOTE (ChemicalPA @ Jun 13 2008, 01:18 AM) *
i made a decongestant nasal spray out of it. worked very well and really fast, but did not work real long like the ones you get in store



i got some HCL here, mind sharing how to make the degongestant spray?
im interested in trying it. does it over dry the mucos membranes if used too often like the rest?
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (djremix @ Jul 9 2008, 04:15 AM) *
i got some HCL here, mind sharing how to make the degongestant spray?
im interested in trying it. does it over dry the mucos membranes if used too often like the rest?



dissolve a gram in 10ccs of water or so and then put it in a nasal decongestant bottle. keep it in fridge. without preservative though it might start growing critters after a week

i am sure it dries them out, i mean thats what these things do
djremix
cool ill try it with some distilled water.

you think adding one small drop of 35% h202 will help with sterility? and keeping it fresh longer?
ChemicalPA
QUOTE (djremix @ Jul 10 2008, 02:57 AM) *
cool ill try it with some distilled water.

you think adding one small drop of 35% h202 will help with sterility? and keeping it fresh longer?


i doubt it
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