So I started on a bottle of AX new 3AD which is a combination of a prohormone, a natural steroid, a phytoecdysteroid, PLCAR and picamilon on Sunday.

Dosing 4 caps/day all in the AM with my morning meal.

Subjective effects: increased libido, generally improved wellbeing, no change in sleep patterns

Gym effects: incredible pumps...back pumps are brutal. Today I noticed a significant increase in strength.

Overall: this is a really cool formula, at least a week in...if the effects continue I'll be very happy, especially because this stuff is both non-methylated and appears to actually be DSHEA compliant...

In the spirit of full disclosure, I had been running, for the two weeks prior to starting 3AD, a "what's left in the cupboard" stack consisting of 15mg of P-Plex and 7.5mg of oxyguno dosed in the AM only. I have discontinued those in order to evaluate 3AD on its own.

Odd, I got a topic-subscription email about this post, but how did I subscribe to a topic that was just posted? Convenient though, as I was curious about this product. Good luck Benson. See you at mass this Sunday. Why is it that the entire congregation has horrible breath? -V

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Is picamilon part of the 3AD? Seems arbitrary if it is; I'm interested to hear the rationale for including it.

So what are the hormonal compounds in this formula allegedly similar to?

GFK, http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/anaboli...ad-90-caps.html

The androsterone is a prohormone to stanolone described as a "semi-synthetic" version of DHT

The 2-androstenol is structurally the same as desoxymethyltestosterone, aka Pheraplex, minus the methyl.

Isn't this hairloss, acne, aggression and aggravation in a bottle?

The problem is no one really knows how effective it is. Marketing and "logs/jokes" aside, the potential hair loss if this is effective is scary.

Its not clear if a PH for stanolone will share all of DHT's qualities...its supposed to be quite anabolic, something DHT is not.

And even if it does possess more androgenic qualities, that would make it a good compliment for 2-AD because the latter appears to be anabolic with a fairly low androgenic component.

In any event, after a week I have noticed no negative mood changes.

I would like to see one of these companies come out with the stanolone precursor by itself.

Have you noticed any water retention/bloating?

None and BP has remained normal.

Picamilon works by rapidly penetrating the blood-brain barrier, decreasing cerebral blood-vessel tone, increasing cerebral blood flow, and stimulating the GABA receptors(12).
The physiological effects of Picamilon result in a highly pronounced psycho-energizing and stimulating effect on the mind(14). Human consciousness is elevated above weakened and depressed mindsets, thereby increasing the speed with which the mind and body perform work(9,13,14). Unique unto Picamilon, however, is that it does not cause excessive stimulation and exhaustion of the body’s energy resources. No irritability, no anxiety, no energy crashes, and no jitters. With the mind elevated from depressed cognitive states, Picamilon brings further balance to the mind by lowering anxiety. The mild tranquilizing effect that Picamilon induces on the mind does not result in muscle relaxation, drowsiness or lethargy, making it the perfect nootropic and psycho-stimulating agent for enhancing an athlete’s mental performance(10,11).

9. Novikov VE, Kovaleva, LA [Article in Russian] Experience of Picamilon Application for Correction of the Physical State Under Tense and Extreme Conditions of Activity. CNIMPL, 26, Raspletin St, Moscow 123060 USSR.

10. A.P. Huaichenko, R.P. Kruglikova-Lyova. The results of the clinical study of the drug Picamilon. The Pharmacological Committee of the Ministry of Health of USSR.

11. Effects of Pycamilon on Sportsmen Psychical Stability. Central Scientific Research Institute of Medico-Biological Problems of Sport, 10, Elizavetinsky per.,Moscow 103064, USSR.

12. Farmakol. Toksikol. The new cerebrovascular preparation picamilon (USSR) Jan-Feb. 1989, 52(1), P. 23-6.

13. Novikov VE, Kovaleva LA [Article in Russian]. Experience of Picamilon Application in Gerontopsychiatric Practice. Institute of Clinical Psychiatry of the All-Union Centre of psychic health, 34, Kashirskoye highway, Moscow 115522, USSR

14. Spectrum of Picamilon Neuropharmacological Activity in Animals Under Experiment [Article in Russian]. Institute of Pharmacology, B, Baltiyskaya st., Moscow, 125315, USSR

Also about the hairloss possibilty. I have a receding hairline and I use rogaine twice a day to try and help it. While I was testing out the 3AD formula I wasnt using rogaine and noted no extra hairloss then normal. One of the beta testers who is also prone to hairloss stopped his cycle ealry because he felt that he had an increase in hair shedding. Its probably going to depend on the user as to possible sides of hair loss or acne.

Who was the guy that thought up 3-ad?

Legal Gear has one (supposedly)

Would be nice if they had not formulated it with yohimbine...

For real...anyone know of that compound being sold solo?

You planning any PCT for this? I've been interested in this and 11oxo for some time, in fact I thought they were the same thing a while back.

Yes PCT will consist of clomiphene and some herbal ancillaries although by using Bill L's morning-only dosing protocol, shutdown has been far less dramatic than I have experienced previously.

did you have any time off between the cycles? i remember PP taking t least 10 days to feel it, maybe this is skewing into your 3-ad subjective results?

and what kind of strength/pumps and back pumps are you feeling?

lets say compared to superdrol?

Hahahahaha... I didn't know those ass-clowns were still around. Nice to see that they are still making bleeding-edge, sensible formulas -- like combining androgens with a2 antagonists. Now, you'll have to excuse me.. time for me to pound down some buckwheat!

No, just went from one to the other. My phera dose was small, only 15mg/day along with the oxy but it is possible that some of what I have been attributing to 3AD is "hangover" However, phera usually kills my libido pretty well after the first week and this stuff has the opposite effect...



Never used superdrol but the pumps I have been experiencing are intense and nothing like what I have seen with phera in the past. The strength increases are becoming noticeable as well...

Thats cool, actually getting itchy to try it...

did u try m-1t? how does it compare ?

Never used M-1T either due to its apparent toxicity...

huh?

its androsterone for crying out loud. the simplest of the androgens and the most plentiful testosterone metabolite in urine.

AX is spinning this stuff to be something it is not for sure.

its a prohormone to the old "3-alpha", which then converts to dht

I just finished up a bottle of it. It gave me a lot of anxiety. Whereas Havoc made me feel on top of the world (although a bit lethargic at times), 3-AD really put me on edge. Sleep was horrific. I didn't gain any weight during the 22.5 days I was on it, although I did feel quite a pump. I was disappointed with it. To be fair, it should probably be cycled for twice as long... but I opted not to take the second bottle due to how I was feeling.

However, I've really enjoyed all of Matt's other formulations with DS.

Interesting. What was your dosage? Have you used ALCAR/PLCAR before?

I took 4 a day (2 caps twice daily with 20g of good fats). I noticed the anxiety from day one. I've never taken PLCAR, but ALCAR at 2g never caused this kind of edginess. Now that I think of it though, maybe the ingredients didn't sit well with the 5mg of Deprenyl I'm taking EOD. (Deprenyl by itself has not increased anxiety in the least.) I'm two days into replacing it with Havoc now, and I'm feeling great. I guess 3-AD just isn't for me.

what's left in the cupboard approach, eh?
sounds like the approach they took to Nano Vapor.

FWIW Jay Black made a great post in my epichlorol log form WL mentioning that oral steroids should be taken on an empty stomach.

Well, sadly, my bottle will be gone tomorrow morning.

General Objective Observations: fairly dramatic increases in strength, I have posted a couple of PRs while using this, and killer pumps

General Subjective Observations: modest libido boost (random wood even), general energized feeling, sleep was good.

Negatives: not much...oily skin, slight chest acne, cost

I'd suggest this to anyone who would like to dabble with a fairly mild but effective compound

Great review, thank you Benson, but where is the before after pics? =) also keep us updated during/after your pct.

sorry for the diversion but does anyone here think jack black is funny?

i mean, i just don't get it

Nope. But that reference to Nano Vapor made me laugh.

School of Rock was pretty funny.

I realized as soon as I had my screen name changed someone was going to make that connection, and FTR, it was NOT intended.



But, yes, I do think Jack Black is funny.

Hi Benson,
Can you pls explain the rationale of dosing all 4 caps in one serving? I thought spreading into 2 equal doses is what is more recommended?

Let me guess: you only have fats in the morning? or 4 caps will help with bioavailability issues by providing more substrates?

I use a morning only dose schedule w/ androgens to reduce the negative feedback stimulus on my HPTA.

So much stuff to study, so little time...

Though I'm not 100% on the halflife of it, spreading it out during the day should still be fine for your system. The product was designed to have minimal, if any, shutdown involved with it. This makes PCT extremely simple and the side effects very nominal.

Nice review.

I think you're funny Jay.

When you cry.