[#32]

I will be using HCG every 4th day. 4000 IU then 3000 IU then 1500 IU then 1500 IU. 40 mg of Nolvadex a day. 16mg of Albuterol a day. Then I will use legal supplements as well. SAN Endotest, Ergopharms 6-OXO, Universals NOX3, and Syntrax Swole. I need some feedback. I was hoping the Albuterol will have the same effect as Clenbuterol in that it will help with cortisol levels. I'm also somewhat concerned with the Nolvadex therapy because I have been using it during my cycle. This is what I have and all I have available to me at this time.

[pogue]

What is your cycle?

[#32]

Well, I was getting ready for my first bodybuilding contest so I was on for a long time. 20 weeks. I started and stayed with 750mg of test. back and forth with sust and Aratest. 500mg of Deca. switched to 500 mg of EQ. Tren75mg EOD then switching to ED, Winny 100mg eod then switching to 100mg ED, Halotestin 20mg ED, Nolvedex the entire time 30mg ED, Clen 6 tabs ED, Cytomel 25mcg ED. Test was 16 weeks then pulled, Deca was 10 weeks, EQ was last 10 weeks, Tren was 14 weeks, winny was 6 weeks, Halo was 2 weeks, Clen was 4 weeks, T-3 was 4 weeks.

[pogue]

Thats a very complex cycle. Why have you decided to go with 6OXO post cycle over Clomid/Nolvadex? Everything else looks fine.

[duque21]

#32, on Sep 9 2003, 09:45 AM, said:

Well, I was getting ready for my first bodybuilding contest so I was on for a long time. 20 weeks. I started and stayed with 750mg of test. back and forth with sust and Aratest. 500mg of Deca. switched to 500 mg of EQ. Tren75mg EOD then switching to ED, Winny 100mg eod then switching to 100mg ED, Halotestin 20mg ED, Nolvedex the entire time 30mg ED, Clen 6 tabs ED, Cytomel 25mcg ED. Test was 16 weeks then pulled, Deca was 10 weeks, EQ was last 10 weeks, Tren was 14 weeks, winny was 6 weeks, Halo was 2 weeks, Clen was 4 weeks, T-3 was 4 weeks.

Whoa???

What made you plan and structure your cycle the way you did??? Some of those dosage strategies did not really make any sense to me???



What sort of gains did you make?



Why did you switch back and forth from different kinds of test?

[rhafley]

duque21, on Sep 9 2003, 10:11 AM, said:

Whoa???

What made you plan and structure your cycle the way you did??? Some of those dosage strategies did not really make any sense to me???



What sort of gains did you make?



Why did you switch back and forth from different kinds of test?

My guess would be lack of planning and having everything he needed on hand before the start...

[RoyHarper]

rhafley, on Sep 9 2003, 12:17 PM, said:

My guess would be lack of planning...

We've never encountered that before have we?

[rhafley]

RoyHarper, on Sep 9 2003, 10:19 AM, said:

rhafley, on Sep 9 2003, 12:17 PM, said:

My guess would be lack of planning...

We've never encountered that before have we?

No I can't say I've ever seen anyone who started a cycle without enough needles to finish or without post cycle meds on hand. This must just be a freak occurence.

[#32]

I am using Nolvadex. That was in my original post and was one of questions. It's not that crazy I must of stated everything wrong. I was with Sust for 14 of those weeks then it dried up and for the remaining weeks I was on Aratest. Then 10weeks of Deca switching it out the Last 10 weeks with EQ was due to less water retention with the EQ as the show approched. then nothing else was changed just as the show got closer I upped the hardening agents.

[pogue]

So what exactly are you asking? Clomid, HCG, Nolvadex, Clen, etc are all good choices. Are you asking the dosages for these products?

[#32]

My Question would be...... Is albuterol going to have the same effects with cortisol levels as clen? And since I have been using Nolvedex the entire time is it still going to be effective in bring up my LH and FSH? And does my plan look like it will be effective at bringing my hormones back to normal, keeping some gains, and blocking the rush of estrogen and cortisol that follows a cycle?

[pogue]

Albuterol will work similar to clen, so yes. As for nolva, its no prob since you've been taking it. I would go with the standard Clomid/HCG post cycle procedure.

[#32]

Thank you for the advice!

[prolangtum]

I would continue taking the nolvadex throughout post cycle to avoid any estrogen rebound, and to prevent any gyno from HCG. I would run the regular standard clomid protocol as pogue said.

[one4havok]

prolangtum, on Sep 10 2003, 12:50 PM, said:

I would continue taking the nolvadex throughout post cycle to avoid any estrogen rebound, and to prevent any gyno from HCG.  I would run the regular standard clomid protocol as pogue said.

Should anyhting be taken after finishing the Nolvadex to avoid a potential Estrogen rebound?

[one4havok]

bumperoo

[Nootropicinfo]

one4havok, on Mar 7 2005, 03:31 PM, said:

Should anyhting be taken after finishing the Nolvadex to avoid a potential Estrogen rebound?

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