Recovery from Prolonged Aspartame Poisoning as a Child
Posted 23 August 2008 - 09:30 PM (#1)
I enjoy nothing. Everything is a chore. I have almost no emotion. I have no memory. I'm constantly in a brain fog, and I need to clear it. Here's a list of the supplements I will use to fix this mess: whey protein, calcium ascorbate, magnesium malate, chelated magnesium, B-complex (a great one), E-complex, l-carnosine, NADH, NAC, biotin, ALA, EPA, DHA, panthethine, turmeric circumin, silymarin, selenium, CoQ10, vinpocetine, multi-enzyme complex and inositol. I also take calcium citrate, cholecalciferol, GNC Mega Men multi-v, ginkgo, ginseng, msm, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid, green tea extract/egcg, grape seed extract/resveratol and lutein. I already take about half of these, but I haven't seen any improvement. I am sure that this is due to the cigarettes. I'll be done with them within a month, and that's when I'll begin this new regiment.
Are any of these ineffective for my purpose and therefore removable (other than the joint stuff)? Are any of them counterproductive? Have I neglected anything important? Which of these need to be taken on an empty stomach? I know that NADH does, but what about the others? This is a lot of pills. How should I divide them among my three daily meals? Would taking DHA without EPA be more beneficial? If not, then why do they sell DHA-only supplements? I'm thinking about cutting ginkgo and ginseng. Good idea?
I am also aware of the toxin problem in our food. I will abstain from food that contains soy (phytoestrogens). Glutamate (MSG, hydrolyzed proteins) is a sneaky one. How else is glutamate hidden? I'm drinking water which contains less than 1ppm of sodium fluoride. Any dehydrated food should be presumed to contain large amounts of fluoride, correct? So, no instant oatmeal and cereal? Soda will be avoided because of EDTA and sodium/potassium benzoate. What other excitotoxins, neurotoxins, cytotoxins and genotoxins, which inhibit recovery, should I be aware of?
I will be eating a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits with minimal meat. Lots of rice. I will be baking my own bread. Is deli meat still safe? Do you guys have any other food suggestions? Can organic labels be trusted?
One more thing: my psychiatrist has me on 30mg amphetamine. Will this be detrimental to my recovery? It makes life livable, but I'll cut it out if need be.
Sorry for the ridiculous number of questions. Thanks for the help!
Posted 23 August 2008 - 10:19 PM (#2)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 09:30 PM, said:
I enjoy nothing. Everything is a chore. I have almost no emotion. I have no memory. I'm constantly in a brain fog, and I need to clear it. Here's a list of the supplements I will use to fix this mess: whey protein, calcium ascorbate, magnesium malate, chelated magnesium, B-complex (a great one), E-complex, l-carnosine, NADH, NAC, biotin, ALA, EPA, DHA, panthethine, turmeric circumin, silymarin, selenium, CoQ10, vinpocetine, multi-enzyme complex and inositol. I also take calcium citrate, cholecalciferol, GNC Mega Men multi-v, ginkgo, ginseng, msm, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid, green tea extract/egcg, grape seed extract/resveratol and lutein. I already take about half of these, but I haven't seen any improvement. I am sure that this is due to the cigarettes. I'll be done with them within a month, and that's when I'll begin this new regiment.
Are any of these ineffective for my purpose and therefore removable (other than the joint stuff)? Are any of them counterproductive? Have I neglected anything important? Which of these need to be taken on an empty stomach? I know that NADH does, but what about the others? This is a lot of pills. How should I divide them among my three daily meals? Would taking DHA without EPA be more beneficial? If not, then why do they sell DHA-only supplements? I'm thinking about cutting ginkgo and ginseng. Good idea?
I am also aware of the toxin problem in our food. I will abstain from food that contains soy (phytoestrogens). Glutamate (MSG, hydrolyzed proteins) is a sneaky one. How else is glutamate hidden? I'm drinking water which contains less than 1ppm of sodium fluoride. Any dehydrated food should be presumed to contain large amounts of fluoride, correct? So, no instant oatmeal and cereal? Soda will be avoided because of EDTA and sodium/potassium benzoate. What other excitotoxins, neurotoxins, cytotoxins and genotoxins, which inhibit recovery, should I be aware of?
I will be eating a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits with minimal meat. Lots of rice. I will be baking my own bread. Is deli meat still safe? Do you guys have any other food suggestions? Can organic labels be trusted?
One more thing: my psychiatrist has me on 30mg amphetamine. Will this be detrimental to my recovery? It makes life livable, but I'll cut it out if need be.
Sorry for the ridiculous number of questions. Thanks for the help!
How do you know it was the Aspartame? How long have you been on amphetamine? Any other history of drug use? How is your Testosterone level?
Posted 23 August 2008 - 10:24 PM (#3)
If not, what scientific proof, or even great anecdotal correlations led you to believe aspartame was the main cause?
Have you had a thourogh medical workup to eliminate any other possible causes?
Posted 23 August 2008 - 10:35 PM (#4)
BlackFlag, on Aug 23 2008, 10:19 PM, said:
Posted 23 August 2008 - 10:40 PM (#5)
dragula, on Aug 23 2008, 10:24 PM, said:
If not, what scientific proof, or even great anecdotal correlations led you to believe aspartame was the main cause?
Have you had a thourogh medical workup to eliminate any other possible causes?
Regardless of whether or not you believe me about aspartame, something destroyed my dopamine and serotonin receptors, and I need to regenerate them. Can we focus on how best to recover from such damage?
Posted 23 August 2008 - 11:37 PM (#6)
Neuroassist.com has an extensive list of neurotoxins. If you look at how long that list is you may realize that your problem is mostly likely from a combination of things.
Cigs put heavy metals like cadmium and copper into your body. You don't have zinc as a separate supplement (besides what is in the multi) which protects against cadmium exposure, and chelates copper. Too much copper can cause brain fog. Zinc is very good for your brain.
I don't believe in b-complexes, especially at the beginning of supplementing. I don't think there is a great b-complex. A b-complex doesn't let you tailor your dose of each b vitamin. And so many b vitamins are important. B6 is important for dopamine and serotonin. You may want more B6 then some other B vitamins, for example.
And you don't have any amino acids. That site neuroassist will explain about what aminos you need and how you can take them with your meds. And also explains how if your brain has been damaged by neurotoxins then you can't repair that damage but make up for it with higher levels of neurotransmitters from taking mostly amino acids.
You should be working with a doctor who does tests for nutritional imbalances and is familair with a nutritional approach.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:34 AM (#7)
Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:45 AM (#8)
orthomolecular, on Aug 23 2008, 11:37 PM, said:
Neuroassist.com has an extensive list of neurotoxins. If you look at how long that list is you may realize that your problem is mostly likely from a combination of things.
Cigs put heavy metals like cadmium and copper into your body. You don't have zinc as a separate supplement (besides what is in the multi) which protects against cadmium exposure, and chelates copper. Too much copper can cause brain fog. Zinc is very good for your brain.
I don't believe in b-complexes, especially at the beginning of supplementing. I don't think there is a great b-complex. A b-complex doesn't let you tailor your dose of each b vitamin. And so many b vitamins are important. B6 is important for dopamine and serotonin. You may want more B6 then some other B vitamins, for example.
And you don't have any amino acids. That site neuroassist will explain about what aminos you need and how you can take them with your meds. And also explains how if your brain has been damaged by neurotoxins then you can't repair that damage but make up for it with higher levels of neurotransmitters from taking mostly amino acids.
You should be working with a doctor who does tests for nutritional imbalances and is familair with a nutritional approach.
This B-complex has 500mg ascorbic acid ©, 100mg thiamine hcl (b1), 100mg riboflavin (b-2), 100mg niacinamide, 100mg pyridoxine hcl (b-6), 400mcg folic acid, 500mcg cyanacobalamin (b-12), 50mcg biotin (in addition to the 5mg capsules I take), 100mg d-calcium pantothenate, 50mg choline bitartrate, 50mg inositol (b-8; in addition to the powder that I mix w/whey shakes), 50mg para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA/b-x). All of this in a giant timed release tablet. I'd say that's a pretty damned good B-complex. Something worries me about it, though. 5mg proprietary blend of alfalfa, watercress, rice bran, brewer's yeast, soy lecithin and parsley. I doubt that there's more than 1mg of soy lecithin in there, so I'm not that worried. I also have separate B-6 (150mg) and B-12 (500mcg) supplements. So, I take a total of 250mg B-6 and 1.5mg B-12 per day. Am I safe from sensory neuropathy with 400mg/day of B-6? How much zinc do you recommend and in what form (oxide, gluconate, picolinate, monomethionine)?
I've read that the body can release stem cells from its bone marrow and that some of them wind up in the brain, leaving me hopeful that this strict, supplemented and toxin-free diet will allow me to regenerate some of what has been lost. It's my only hope, aside from injecting stem cells directly into my brain. I believe that we never see any recovery from brain damage because of widespread malnutrition and chronic consumption of neurotoxins. I define malnutrition as the failure to provide the body with everything it can utilize rather than with what it needs to barely survive.
As for a doctor, I've never heard of one suggesting the use of supplements. I'll look for one, though. All of my doctors know which supplements I take, as they should. They laugh, though. I asked one if he knew whether or not any of these were raising my blood pressure. He replied, "I don't know anything about holistic medicine," in a patronizing tone.
Squarepusher, on Aug 24 2008, 12:34 AM, said:
Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:12 AM (#9)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 10:30 PM, said:
I enjoy nothing. Everything is a chore. I have almost no emotion. I have no memory. I'm constantly in a brain fog, and I need to clear it. Here's a list of the supplements I will use to fix this mess: whey protein, calcium ascorbate, magnesium malate, chelated magnesium, B-complex (a great one), E-complex, l-carnosine, NADH, NAC, biotin, ALA, EPA, DHA, panthethine, turmeric circumin, silymarin, selenium, CoQ10, vinpocetine, multi-enzyme complex and inositol. I also take calcium citrate, cholecalciferol, GNC Mega Men multi-v, ginkgo, ginseng, msm, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid, green tea extract/egcg, grape seed extract/resveratol and lutein. I already take about half of these, but I haven't seen any improvement. I am sure that this is due to the cigarettes. I'll be done with them within a month, and that's when I'll begin this new regiment.
Are any of these ineffective for my purpose and therefore removable (other than the joint stuff)? Are any of them counterproductive? Have I neglected anything important? Which of these need to be taken on an empty stomach? I know that NADH does, but what about the others? This is a lot of pills. How should I divide them among my three daily meals? Would taking DHA without EPA be more beneficial? If not, then why do they sell DHA-only supplements? I'm thinking about cutting ginkgo and ginseng. Good idea?
I am also aware of the toxin problem in our food. I will abstain from food that contains soy (phytoestrogens). Glutamate (MSG, hydrolyzed proteins) is a sneaky one. How else is glutamate hidden? I'm drinking water which contains less than 1ppm of sodium fluoride. Any dehydrated food should be presumed to contain large amounts of fluoride, correct? So, no instant oatmeal and cereal? Soda will be avoided because of EDTA and sodium/potassium benzoate. What other excitotoxins, neurotoxins, cytotoxins and genotoxins, which inhibit recovery, should I be aware of?
I will be eating a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits with minimal meat. Lots of rice. I will be baking my own bread. Is deli meat still safe? Do you guys have any other food suggestions? Can organic labels be trusted?
One more thing: my psychiatrist has me on 30mg amphetamine. Will this be detrimental to my recovery? It makes life livable, but I'll cut it out if need be.
Sorry for the ridiculous number of questions. Thanks for the help!
Eh I doubt its the aspartame, hows your A1c been your whole life? I've had diabetes for 21 years my memory isn't the best but I've seen studies diabetics don't have worse memory due to increased oxidation from excess glucose. Diabetics on average have serotonin issues with depression etc. Inositol helps me out at a few grams, to me it seems amphetamines are making you a bit paranoid, you might want to focus on reducing oxidative stress on your brain. Your really going to want to eliminate cigarettes from your life or your gonna have a heart attack in like 8 years. Look into benfotiamine if you aren't allready taking it.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:30 AM (#10)
keninishna, on Aug 24 2008, 01:12 AM, said:
Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:34 AM (#11)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 09:35 PM, said:
I fixed your link.
But I did find this quote from the website you referenced particularly funny:
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Powerthirst is like crystal meth in a can! Powerthirst is crystal meth in a can!! Power thirst is crystal meth!!!
Anyway...
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 11:45 PM, said:
God damn. You ever tried just not taking a billion supplements? Maybe give a shot to a good multi and your insulin for a while.
and yes, I am type I.
The proper way to differentiate is "type 1/2," not "type I/II." Sorry, just a pet peeve.
-Where the telescope ends the microscope begins, and who can say which has the wider vision? -- Victor Hugo
-Nobody can think straight who does not work. Idleness warps the mind. Thinking without constructive action becomes a disease. -- Henry Ford
Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:43 AM (#12)
Do you REALLY think that the medicrats in the FDA have your back? Go ahead and consume Monsanto's GMO crops, aspartame and antibiotic-resistant-bacteria-infested cloned livestock. Go ahead and believe the manipulated studies which support what you want to be true. Brush your teeth with fluoridated toothpaste without examining the premises upon which the lie lays. Eat soy, because the FDA says it prevents cancer. Don't forget your sodium benzoate, because a fresh soda is well worth ingesting benzene. EDTA is great, because that fresh taste is way better than maintaining the integrity of your DNA. Codex Alimentarius will protect you from those dangerous vitamins and supplements, and it will protect you from those pesky vitamins found in foods that haven't been irradiated. Live the lie, because if you accept the truth, you'd have to admit that you're destroying yourself for some pretty stupid reasons. Buy up that propaganda; it's comforting.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 02:31 AM (#13)
adre, on Aug 24 2008, 12:43 AM, said:
Glad you can find some comfort in something; you seem to have some serious issues.
-Where the telescope ends the microscope begins, and who can say which has the wider vision? -- Victor Hugo
-Nobody can think straight who does not work. Idleness warps the mind. Thinking without constructive action becomes a disease. -- Henry Ford
Posted 24 August 2008 - 02:44 AM (#14)
dashforce, on Aug 24 2008, 02:31 AM, said:
(now, regardless of the fact that I'm on the gum, go make a cigarette joke; it'll be hilarious)
Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:07 AM (#15)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 10:30 PM, said:
Just so we are clear, you have a major congenital endocrine disorder, one with well established neuropsychological implications, but you want to lay your problems at the feet of aspartame poisoning, something for which there is no actual evidence?
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The hell with organic, why would you eat like this as a diabetic? Bread, rice, limited protein? The research pretty clearly supports a low carbohydrate diet for optimal blood glucose control in T1 diabetes.

However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results... - Winston Churchill
Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:53 AM (#16)
See here son, people who are objective about these things won't settle on one causation, especially one as poorly documented and left-field as this.
It seems like you WANT IT to be aspartame that caused this. I think you came to the wrong place with this nonsense.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:01 AM (#17)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 09:30 PM, said:
I enjoy nothing. Everything is a chore. I have almost no emotion. I have no memory. I'm constantly in a brain fog, and I need to clear it. Here's a list of the supplements I will use to fix this mess: whey protein, calcium ascorbate, magnesium malate, chelated magnesium, B-complex (a great one), E-complex, l-carnosine, NADH, NAC, biotin, ALA, EPA, DHA, panthethine, turmeric circumin, silymarin, selenium, CoQ10, vinpocetine, multi-enzyme complex and inositol. I also take calcium citrate, cholecalciferol, GNC Mega Men multi-v, ginkgo, ginseng, msm, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid, green tea extract/egcg, grape seed extract/resveratol and lutein. I already take about half of these, but I haven't seen any improvement. I am sure that this is due to the cigarettes. I'll be done with them within a month, and that's when I'll begin this new regiment.
Are any of these ineffective for my purpose and therefore removable (other than the joint stuff)? Are any of them counterproductive? Have I neglected anything important? Which of these need to be taken on an empty stomach? I know that NADH does, but what about the others? This is a lot of pills. How should I divide them among my three daily meals? Would taking DHA without EPA be more beneficial? If not, then why do they sell DHA-only supplements? I'm thinking about cutting ginkgo and ginseng. Good idea?
I am also aware of the toxin problem in our food. I will abstain from food that contains soy (phytoestrogens). Glutamate (MSG, hydrolyzed proteins) is a sneaky one. How else is glutamate hidden? I'm drinking water which contains less than 1ppm of sodium fluoride. Any dehydrated food should be presumed to contain large amounts of fluoride, correct? So, no instant oatmeal and cereal? Soda will be avoided because of EDTA and sodium/potassium benzoate. What other excitotoxins, neurotoxins, cytotoxins and genotoxins, which inhibit recovery, should I be aware of?
I will be eating a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits with minimal meat. Lots of rice. I will be baking my own bread. Is deli meat still safe? Do you guys have any other food suggestions? Can organic labels be trusted?
One more thing: my psychiatrist has me on 30mg amphetamine. Will this be detrimental to my recovery? It makes life livable, but I'll cut it out if need be.
Sorry for the ridiculous number of questions. Thanks for the help!
The symptoms that you mentioned could be related to low Testosterone. Diabetics commonly have low Test levels.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:30 AM (#18)
BlackFlag, on Aug 23 2008, 11:19 PM, said:
+1
dragula, on Aug 23 2008, 11:24 PM, said:
+1
BlackFlag, on Aug 24 2008, 10:01 AM, said:
Ding ding ding ding ding!!
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:00 AM (#19)
I took DHEA for a while, and it did nothing. 6-OXO wouldn't work for me, right? I mean, naturally low levels of testosterone would mean low levels of estrogen as well, unless diabetes somehow increases aromatase activity. I'm thinking that the problem likely exists in the hypothalamus. Again, formaldehyde, an aspartame metabolite, accumulates in the hypothalamus. Aspartame may very well be the reason why a large number of male diabetics have low testosterone. Sorry, guys. I can't let aspartame go unpunished.
Even if you don't believe that aspartic acid and phenylalanine spikes in blood plasma negatively affect neural firing and cause oxidation, you MUST ADMIT that aspartame breaks down into methanol. In the absence of ethanol (aspartame product do not contain ethanol), alchohol dehydrogenase will convert this methanol into formaldehyde. Formaldehyde accumulates throughout your body. Parts of the hypothalmus lack an effective blood-brain barrier. Therefore, formaldehyde can accumulate there. I'm still pinning this on aspartame. What's the best way to detox formaldehyde? Panthethine enhances aldehyde dehydrogenase function. Bingo bango, fixed, if you guys are right.
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:26 AM (#20)
adre, on Aug 24 2008, 12:44 AM, said:
(now, regardless of the fact that I'm on the gum, go make a cigarette joke; it'll be hilarious)
People get cancer because they now outlive 30.
500 years ago, with life expectancy in the late 30's, you'd never see cancer. When you did see cancer, you'd blame it on "bad air" or some other absurd cause.
100 years ago, with life expectancy in the 50's, you would see cancers, but not know its cause.
Today, we diagnose everything and we have a mean life expectancy in the late 60s. Oxidative stress, neurotoxins, pollutants and the like assault our bodies and they give in to cancer.
That's what we get for living so damned long.
Personally, I'm a fan of aspartame. It's never led me wrong in almost 30 years of massive assive consumption. I drink the shit like it's water. I'm like a science experiment waiting to unfold.
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:32 AM (#21)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 07:30 PM, said:
WTF? Veggies and carbs for a Type I diabetic? Wow. Way to go on researching an appropriate diets for diabetics, Bueller. You'll spend 4 years working on a crackpot theory that blames Aspartame for all of your shortcomings, but you can't spend an hour reading about Diabetes, carbs, sugars and dieting. WTG, ace.
My wife has an aunt like you. We call her "crazy". Are you sure you just don't have schizophrenia? You don't trust food? You don't "trust" deli meat or labeling? WTF?
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:16 AM (#22)
GaWd, on Aug 25 2008, 12:32 AM, said:
My wife has an aunt like you. We call her "crazy". Are you sure you just don't have schizophrenia? You don't trust food? You don't "trust" deli meat or labeling? WTF?
At present, I do not know what qualifications the FDA has set for the organic label. After Codex Alimentarius, any farmer will be able to claim that their food is organic; the codex will also reintroduce DDT (among other formerly banned toxic pesticides) for agricultural use and make use of BGH in dairy cows mandatory. Interested in codex? Go to Google Video and find Nutricide. Also, I don't know what the hell is in deli meat. When McDonald's can legally claim that their meat is 100% beef, we've got serious problems in the meat industry.
Sanction, on Aug 25 2008, 01:04 AM, said:
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:43 AM (#23)
GaWd, on Aug 25 2008, 12:26 AM, said:
That's what we get for living so damned long.
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Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:54 AM (#24)
adre, on Aug 24 2008, 01:44 AM, said:
Um...
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 08:30 PM, said:
Are any of these ineffective for my purpose and therefore removable (other than the joint stuff)? Are any of them counterproductive? Have I neglected anything important? Which of these need to be taken on an empty stomach? I know that NADH does, but what about the others? This is a lot of pills. How should I divide them among my three daily meals? Would taking DHA without EPA be more beneficial? If not, then why do they sell DHA-only supplements? I'm thinking about cutting ginkgo and ginseng. Good idea?
Sorry for the ridiculous number of questions. Thanks for the help!
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 11:45 PM, said:
I've read that the body can release stem cells from its bone marrow and that some of them wind up in the brain, leaving me hopeful that this strict, supplemented and toxin-free diet will allow me to regenerate some of what has been lost. It's my only hope, aside from injecting stem cells directly into my brain. I believe that we never see any recovery from brain damage because of widespread malnutrition and chronic consumption of neurotoxins. I define malnutrition as the failure to provide the body with everything it can utilize rather than with what it needs to barely survive.
Nope, no fretting at all.
adre, on Aug 24 2008, 01:44 AM, said:
Funny how 1 in 2 20-something year old kids that spends too much time on the internet becomes a hypochondriac and obsessed with conspiracies. You and me make two. Go make some friends or something.
adre, on Aug 25 2008, 12:16 AM, said:
Keep an eye on that A1C buddy. Well, until your eyesight goes.
-Where the telescope ends the microscope begins, and who can say which has the wider vision? -- Victor Hugo
-Nobody can think straight who does not work. Idleness warps the mind. Thinking without constructive action becomes a disease. -- Henry Ford
Posted 25 August 2008 - 02:03 AM (#25)
I do however have this link that despite my vyvanse I am too lazy to read through that I believe is relevant.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutrition-h...diet-sodas.html
Posted 25 August 2008 - 02:29 AM (#26)
Posted 25 August 2008 - 02:38 AM (#27)
adre, on Aug 23 2008, 09:40 PM, said:
???
adre, on Aug 25 2008, 12:43 AM, said:
oh.... it's aspartame withdrawal? I seem to have no problem with headaches and i drink diet coke... caffiene free even.
I would go into more detail with some of your posts, but Big Brother is coming to take my evidence of aliens on the grassy knoll with big foot and george bush while planning 9/11 and I have to astral-project my ass to a homeopath because my Qi is all fucked up from all the aromatherapy I've been having.
Posted 25 August 2008 - 02:45 AM (#28)
dashforce, on Aug 25 2008, 01:54 AM, said:
Nope, no fretting at all.
Funny how 1 in 2 20-something year old kids that spends too much time on the internet becomes a hypochondriac and obsessed with conspiracies. You and me make two. Go make some friends or something.
Keep an eye on that A1C buddy. Well, until your eyesight goes.
Posted 25 August 2008 - 02:55 AM (#30)
adre, on Aug 24 2008, 11:16 PM, said:
You mind pointing out where I said veggies were "bad" for you? So in reality, you still haven't heard that one, yet...
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Shazam. I don't recall ever saying carbs were bad either, mmmm'kay?
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Come to think of it, Drugs are bad mmm'kay? Don't do drugs, kids.
I find it odd that you're so fucking paranoid about your food, yet you'll pump Lantus, protein shakes, supplements and other chemicals directly into your body when there are things you could do with your diet that would make your reliance on Insulin, Lantus and other meds less important. Being from a family of type I and II diabetics, I know how this all works, spanky. I've seen Diabetes controlled and uncontrolled. I've seen Type I and II diabetics try to manage their disease with and without carb restriction. I'll give you a guess which one works and which one doesn't...

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