[Jay Black]

I actually started the product Thursday, and took pictures a few hours after my first application, so I don't think it messed anything up. Life has been hell the past week or so with college starting again/working/blah blah...this was a bad time to start the trial...bad judgement on my part. But, I'm doing to do what I can to control the variables.

Diet: Protein at least 1g per lbs. of BW. Carbs around 2.5g per lbs. of BW, and fat intake is...well, I don't keep track. Calories end up being around maintainence or slightly above. I want to see what this new product can do WRT repartitioning. My diet consists of lean meats, poultry, tuna, whole grains, tons of low-fat dairy, and 1 or 2 V8 drinks a day. I hate vegetables and rarely eat them, maybe broccoli...so sue me.

Training: 10-12 sets per large bodypart, 6-8 sets per smaller bodypart. Rep range 4-10. I rarely hit failure on any sets. I respond better to a lower volume routine, usually leaving a rep in the hole. WO split is chest/tris, back/abs, off, delts/bis, legs/abs, off, off. I'd like to do a little cardio as well, but just don't forsee it happening with my schedule the way it's been.

Weight: 220 lbs. last Thursday (first day of application).
Height: 5'8"
BF%: I don't know

Supplements:
NOW Foods Vit-Min 100+, 1 tab
Ester-C, 2g TID
Vit E, 400mg
Carlson's Very Finest Fish Oil, 2-3tsp
Glucosamine, 1.5g
MSM, 1.5g
L-leucine, 6g
Taurine, 5g
Clear edge, 3-6 caps
CoQ10, 150mg BID
Ginkgo Biloba, 60mg BID
Hawthorn Extract, 300mg BID
NAC, 1.2g
Supercarb, ~40g
Enova Oil, 1-3 tbsp
Aspirin, 81mg
Raloxifene, 40mg ED
Aromasin, 12.5mg ED
Adderall, 10mg BID
Reset AD, 1 cap BID
Sesathin, dose varies (less than reccomended)
NAPALM, 5 squirts BID (3 to Abdominals and 1 to each oblique)

As needed:
Valium, 10-30mg
Cialis, 25mg
Melatonin, 3mg
NP's Hordenine/PEA, 2-3 caps
Albuterol, 4-8mg preworkout/cardio
Ergopharm AMP, 2 caps preworkout

Note on stim usage: If for some reason I don't take my Adderall, I may take one of the as-needed preworkout stims. I never take them together.

Anything I'm missing?

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[Sir Savage]

Cool.

[GeorgeHavener]

How do you shave your stomach without getting razor bumps is what I want to know.

[Jay Black]

Excellent question. I have no idea.

I'm guessing it's because I do it in the shower, lather up with my Axe bodywash, then use my wife's razor she uses on her legs (which of course she doesn't know). I rarely get razor bumps anyway when shaving my face, unless I shave ED going against the grain.

Note: Napalm seems to dry faster than Lipoderm-U or L-Y. I like that it's a bit thicker, easier to work with and can apply it to smaller areas it seems (whereas Lipoderm seemed like I could spread it everywhere). Also, I can't seem to figure out why every once in a while when applying it sort of flakes like what happens with the carbomer in Abliterate. It doesn't happen every application though (happens even after scrubbing as well).

[ozzman]

Noticed and commented on the "pilling" effect. Seems to be due to rubbing and maybe, just maybe, impurities (read, didn't wash hands prior to applying)

[Kimbo]

ozzman, on Aug 23 2007, 09:59 AM, said:

Noticed and commented on the "pilling" effect. Seems to be due to rubbing and maybe, just maybe, impurities (read, didn't wash hands prior to applying)

I use plastic sandwich bags to rub topicals on with.

As for razor bumps, just shave with the grain or use clippers.

[Jay Black]

WRT razor bumps, use the 4 bladed Venus razor...apparently that's what makes the difference my wife said. LOL

[lethaljd]

shave WITH the grain, which is probably in a downward fashion on most of ya'll. For some reason I think that most people try to shave up towards the face and it results in more irritation, ingrown hairs, and razor bumps.

[Jay Black]

Actually, when shaving the abdominal region, I shave across (starting from the vertical line of my belly button towards the outside), which actually goes against the grain. But I seem to have no problems with shaving my belly!

[Jay Black]

Probably not important, but I failed to mention that I'm also using Reset AD, 1 cap BID with each 10mg dose of Adderall. Supplement list revised.

[GeorgeHavener]

The best idea is to use an electric razor... but that's slow and lame.

I'll try the venus.

[Jay Black]

Weighed in this morning at 225 upon waking. Nothing else to add right now.

[lethaljd]

225 lbs.? So you are up 5 lbs. since the start?

[Jay Black]

Yessir! I must've been carb depleted (without realizing) when I took those pics and weighed in originally. It's actually kind of cool, I guess I'm bigger than I thought

Just wanted to note, as it may have an effect...I don't know...but my psych increased my dose of Adderall to 20mg BID.

NOW Foods Vit-Min 100+, 1 tab
Ester-C, 2g TID
Vit E, 400mg
Carlson's Very Finest Fish Oil, 2-3tsp
Glucosamine, 1.5g
MSM, 1.5g
L-leucine, 6g
Taurine, 5g
Clear edge, 3-6 caps
CoQ10, 150mg BID
Ginkgo Biloba, 60mg BID
Hawthorn Extract, 300mg BID
NAC, 1.2g
Supercarb, ~40g
Enova Oil, 1-3 tbsp
Aspirin, 81mg
Sesathin, dose varies (keeping it low though)
NAPALM, 5 squirts BID (Abdominals and obliques)
Raloxifene, 40mg ED
Aromasin, 12.5mg ED
Adderall, 20mg BID
Reset AD, 1 cap BID


As needed:
Valium, 10-30mg
Cialis, 25mg
Melatonin, 3mg
NP's Hordenine/PEA, 2-3 caps
Albuterol, 4-8mg preworkout/cardio
Ergopharm AMP, 2 caps preworkout

[Jay Black]

I've only been on it about ten days or so, and when I held the bottle up to the light, it looks like I'm halfway through it already. So it will come out to be 20 days at 5 squirts BID? Seems short...so I'm going to give it until Thursday anyway to take pictures again.

[Jay Black]

Just wanted to say that my wife commented that I'm "definitely leaner" than I was when I started, and I've added around 5 pounds. I'll weigh in again tomorrow to verify the weight.

[Jakeshorts]

GeorgeHavener, on Aug 23 2007, 10:26 PM, said:

The best idea is to use an electric razor... but that's slow and lame.

I'll try the venus.

this is complete folly. Never touch your body's sensative areas with an electric razor. Try switch shaving creams - such as nonscented. There are dermatologist recommended ones without scent that can be found almost anywhere. Also, so parts of your body just will never get used to being shaved. I've shaved my chest/belly/pubic area for hell.... 7 years maybe.. consistently and the only area of my body I have a REAL problem with is my chest. For this I've learned to just take the beard trimmer and get as close as I can. No one seems to notice the very very short stubble left, and I don't have to worry about huge painful ingrown hairs.

On an editor's note: I have a buddy who can shave his legs with an electric razor and not get bumps. If I HOLD one in my hand I get razor burn all over me. If your have sensetive skin STAY AWAY from the electric razor. When shaving my whole body for competition I find that a Mach3 with good shaving cream works the best. Gellette makes a shaving gel that stays a gel. It's not in a can either. It almost looks like face wash only is says "shave" on the plastic tube. This works best for every part of my body except the face.

[Jon]

one of the best things I've used to shave with is hair conditioner.

[Jay Black]

Weighed in at 224 this morning.

[Kimbo]

Been wanting to give the Philips Bodygroom a whirl. I get ingrown hairs like a mofo if I shave my torso.

[Jay Black]

You can try to shave with olive oil as well, no joke. Works well for areas other than your face.

[Jay Black]

Going to take pictures again tonight, and changing up my application starting tonight...4 squirts to the abdominal region and 1 squirt Abliterate to each oblique twice a day. Over the past few weeks it doesn't seem like my love handles have shrunk at all, while my abdominal region is becoming a little more apparent. Prior to starting this Napalm trial, Abliterate seemed to be working well on my love handles/obliques.

[Jay Black]

Scratch that, 3 squirts covers the abdominal region plenty, still going to use Abliterate on the love handles though. Didn't get to take pictures last night, hopefully tonight sometime...

[Jay Black]

Still haven't gotten around to taken mid-pictures, but I will in the next few days. It seems as though my abs are coming through just a little more, weight is hovering at 224. My diet has sucked the past few days or week, or whatever. But it doesn't seem to be effecting Napalm's job...seems like a great product so far.

[Jay Black]

Well, here I am just over 3 weeks in, and about to run out in the next few days. Keep in mind, I'm still up ~4 pounds from the initial pictures 3 weeks ago...this stuff is great, also considering my diet hasn't been all that clean.

I wonder how much water retention this stuff actually causes...I'll take pictures a couple days after my last application which will probably be in a few days...

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[Benson]

Lookin large and lean...

[Stay Puft]

Check out that kick ass Magic Eye Calender!!


Ohh, and nice progress as well.

[Jay Black]

Thanks gentz...

But yea, I love that magic eye calendar...it's surprising though at how many people can't seem to get it.

[Jay Black]

Last application today! At the end of the week, I'll retake more pictures to see if there is any water loss/retention. Loved the stuff so far...hopefully it DOES cause water retention and that'll go away in a few days...that'd be great progress.

[Jay Black]

Well, no sense in taking new pictures (didn't get the chance anyway), not much/minimal improvement if any since the last set of pics. I still say this is a great product as I've added 5 lb., increased strength, while reducing abdominal fat with a less than perfect diet.

So for anyone thinking about purchasing this when it comes out...do it. Other than possibly clen-derm (with RKs), this is the best topical yet, by far.