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Napalm™ Trial so it begins

Posted 06 August 2007 - 09:06 AM (#1) User is offline   Jon 

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31 years old
230 lbs
Last BF% measured 2 weeks ago was 13% (rounded up)

I've been training since I was 17. In the past I've never had problems with my abdominal area and love handles. However as I've gotten older, it seems increasingly difficult to lose this. Like I told my wife, I'd be almost totally happy with how I looked if I didn't have this god forsaken lower ab fat and love handle fat.

I haven't had a really lean midsection in 7 years, so hopefully, this does the trick.

I'm currently following a modified version of the Superhero workout. I do cardio at least 5 times a week, not including walks I take my dogs on, walks with the wife, etc..Only counting gym cardio. Times usually vary depending on my mood. I always go at least 25 minutes, sometimes 60 minutes.
I don't do a lot of running due to shin splints, so I'll use the treadmill with the incline cranked up as high as it can go, the ellipitcal, recumbant bike, or occassionally the stair climber.

The company I work for has a gym which allows me to go whenever I want, 24/7.

The trainer that runs the gym is the one who has given me the BF measurment. I will get an updated test done today.

I took pictures yesterday and will get them posted tonight.

My trial began yesterday morning, applying 5 squirts 2x per day.

Initial Impressions:
The smell of Napalm™ reminds me of regular Lipoderm. It's a smell that stays with me for a couple hours after application.
I really only feel a minor warmth after application that lasts for approximately 30 minutes. It's a pleasant warmth, especially after having used Lipoderm-Y with cap cream. That burned like a mofo, even after almost a month of use.

The drying time with Napalm™ seems to be slightly better then Lipoderm-Y. With Lipo-Y, when I'd apply it in the morning before work, the area would stay somewhat sticky/wet, even after sitting around for 10 minutes. This morning's application of Napalm™, the area was dry in about 5 minutes. I applied, primped myself in the bathroom for a couple minutes, came out, stood under the ceiling fan for a couple more minutes and I was dry. Very much improved. I always hated putting my clothes on when the area still seemed wet.

Aside from that, nothing else to report.
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 10:36 AM (#2) User is offline   Sir Savage 

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Posted 06 August 2007 - 12:51 PM (#3) User is offline   Jon 

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Just had my BF tested
Weight 229.5 lbs
BF 13.6%

Measurements:
Right Bicep 17.75
Left Bicep 18
Chest 41
Waist 40.25 (seems a little big, which is strange since I can easily fit into a 36 pair of jeans)
oblique 41.25
gluteal 43.5
Right Thigh 25.25
Left Thigh 25.5
Right Calf 16.25
Left Calf 17.25

Skinfolds (mm)
Tricep 10
Suprailiac 12
Abdominal 17
Thigh 17
Total 56
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 12:53 PM (#4) User is offline   Jon 

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Also, after having worked out and gotten sweaty, my stomach has the warming sensation I get after I initially apply the Napalm.
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 12:11 PM (#5) User is offline   Jon 

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Just to reiterate...I'm very happy with how quickly this dries. I went to the gym here at work, did 30 minutes of cardio and then showered. With the Lipo-Y, I'd stand around, stand in front the the fan, and just try not to move to avoid sweating and getting hot again.
I applied the Napalm and within minutes it seemed to be dry.
It's only been since Sunday, but I haven't noticed any water retention in the area. That's a plus.
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 12:15 PM (#6) User is online   ozzman 

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I may have started some water retention...so I slowed down the amount applied to 4 squirts per application (instead of 5)
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 10:31 PM (#7) User is offline   Jon 

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Before Pics

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:39 PM (#8) User is offline   GeorgeHavener 

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That has got to be higher than thirteen percent. You'll cut up with a good deal of size though. Lucky.

I'm leaner that noswt4u and I'm pretty sure even I'm at 9%.

EDIT: Looking at your waist size though.. .Maybe your just one big mofo. Going to scare people when you harden up I'd say. (No homo)

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 08:34 AM (#9) User is offline   lethaljd 

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View PostGeorgeHavener, on Aug 9 2007, 11:39 PM, said:

That has got to be higher than thirteen percent. You'll cut up with a good deal of size though. Lucky.

I'm leaner that noswt4u and I'm pretty sure even I'm at 9%.

EDIT: Looking at your waist size though.. .Maybe your just one big mofo. Going to scare people when you harden up I'd say. (No homo)


I would agree with George. I'm right under 15% and you are a bit bigger than me. Who really cares though, it's just a number, visible abs are what matter (to most of us).
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:58 AM (#10) User is offline   Jon 

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Makes me wonder then if the girl testing my BF knows what she is doing. then again, the majority of my excess flab is in my stomach and love handles. Who knows. At least it's a base line. I dont' like measurements anyway.
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:59 AM (#11) User is online   Kimbo 

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He may just be like me and carry most of his fat in his mid section. I had a body fat % of 12.2 using a 9 point test not too long ago, but you wouldn't know it looking at my stomach.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:28 PM (#12) User is online   ozzman 

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Hey it happens... My back and shoulders are much much leaner.
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:50 PM (#13) User is offline   Stay Puft 

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I've always believe that images are for others, numbers are for yourself.

The pics will tell the story far more elegantly than any numbers could.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 08:12 AM (#14) User is offline   Jon 

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After 1 week of use:
Still get the warming sensation, even after a good 12 hours. As soon as my body starts to heat up, that's one of the 1st places I feel it. I work on the 4th floor of my building and take the stairs. I really notice it when I get to my desk.

Water retention has set in, although it's not that bad.

I'm going to take my next set of pics in a week. I'll have before pics, mid point pics, and final pics.
FYI, I'll most likely be tan on my final pics. Not because I'm trying to make the before and after pics look better, but I was at the beach yesterday, and over Labor Day weekend I'll be up at a lake in Georgia spending a lot of time out on a boat.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 08:19 AM (#15) User is online   Kimbo 

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View PostJon, on Aug 13 2007, 09:12 AM, said:

After 1 week of use:
Still get the warming sensation, even after a good 12 hours. As soon as my body starts to heat up, that's one of the 1st places I feel it. I work on the 4th floor of my building and take the stairs. I really notice it when I get to my desk.

Water retention has set in, although it's not that bad.

I'm going to take my next set of pics in a week. I'll have before pics, mid point pics, and final pics.
FYI, I'll most likely be tan on my final pics. Not because I'm trying to make the before and after pics look better, but I was at the beach yesterday, and over Labor Day weekend I'll be up at a lake in Georgia spending a lot of time out on a boat.

Lake Lanier?

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:39 AM (#16) User is offline   Jon 

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View PostKimbo, on Aug 13 2007, 05:19 AM, said:

Lake Lanier?


No, never been there. I used to live in Mansfield, which was about 20 miles from Conyers. We lived on Jackson Lake. We have some friends that live up there on the water, so that's where we'll be.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:18 PM (#17) User is online   Kimbo 

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View PostJon, on Aug 13 2007, 11:39 AM, said:

No, never been there. I used to live in Mansfield, which was about 20 miles from Conyers. We lived on Jackson Lake. We have some friends that live up there on the water, so that's where we'll be.

Gotcha. Never been up that way, but I hear it's nice. Carry on :)

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:02 PM (#18) User is offline   noswttea4u 

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View PostKimbo, on Aug 13 2007, 05:19 AM, said:

Lake Lanier?


I live by Lake Lanier :). About 1/4 mile away.
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 12:51 PM (#19) User is offline   Sir Savage 

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:19 PM (#20) User is offline   Jon 

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I've been noticing that this really makes my skin red. Red like I got a horrible sunburn. It only lasts for around 30 minutes though. I also only get it when I apply it in the a.m.
I go down to the gym here at work around 11. Whether I weight train or do cardio, after I shower and apply, the application site lights up to a crispy red.
Strange thing is, as red as it gets, it doesn't hurt, it doesnt' really burn, more of the warming sensation that seems typical for me on these topicals.
I did get a few strange looks today when a couple people noticed how red I was.

Aside from that, all is going well. I'm actually going to be updating my measurements at the end.
Our gym has a new trainer and I wanted the same person testing my BF% and measurements before and after. She uses some other method for the abdominal caliper reading. Something about the 2 finger method???
Anyway, her test showed me at a much higher BF% then the previous girl, as some in my log had pointed out.
I definitely do carry most of my BF in my lower stomach and love handles.
Anyway, I'll update all of this as the trial is finishing up.
I started with 5 pumps twice a day, but have dropped down to 3 pumps twice a day. That really seems like plenty in order to cover the entire application site.
This should last me slightly over a month
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 09:33 PM (#21) User is offline   Jay Black 

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Dang...all the GA peepz up in here, aye?

I'm down in Columbus, but not a far drive for a gathering after all our Napalm testing!
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 08:17 AM (#22) User is offline   Jon 

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View PostJeff, on Aug 16 2007, 06:33 PM, said:

Dang...all the GA peepz up in here, aye?

I'm down in Columbus, but not a far drive for a gathering after all our Napalm testing!


The wife and I are hoping to be back in Georgia in a year or so. I just started school for Respiratory Therapy and would like to get at least a year under my belt before I look to transfer schools.
We definitely miss it.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 08:50 AM (#23) User is offline   Jon 

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Here is an update:

I bumped my dosage back up and added 2 extra pumps. I'm applying 1 pump to each pec. Have some fat I'd like to get rid of.
At this point, I'm very pleased with the progress. There may be slight water retention, but overall, the application sites look like they have decreased. It's especially noticeable to me on my love handles. It's as though I have pockets that the fat goes to in this area. It's always been one of those things that I was self conscious about. Right now, the size of the area looks smaller.
My lower stomach around my belly button looks like it's gone down as well, although not as drastically. My upper abs seem to be trying to pop out as well.
I've only been applying to each pec for a couple days, so I don't have anything to report on that. Surprisingly, getting it on the nips doesn't burn in the least bit...but then again my nips aren't that sensitive...thought you'd all like to know that. :bigemo_harabe_net-191:
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 07:46 AM (#24) User is offline   Jon 

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I've noticed quite the difference, especially on my love handles. Overall everything seems to be going down nicely.
I'm definitely noticing some water retention from the product, however right now, I'm really holding a lot of water from getting cooked at the beach this weekend. Been in Florida for over 3 years and this was the most time I've really spent in the sun, so despite the sun screen, I'm still fairly red.

I want to take some pics halfway through, but for some reason, my bottle is almost gone. I'll just wait till I'm finished if that's alright.

Thus far, Napalm has been better then expected. Never really got much out of Lipo-Y, but this has really been delivering the results.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 08:13 AM (#25) User is offline   Stay Puft 

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End stage pics are adequate here, Jon. You've done an excellent job with your review thus far, thanks for the feedback.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:29 AM (#26) User is offline   Jon 

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I've probably got enough left for 1 more week. Results seem positive. I have a stubborn body though. It's really hard for me to get below a certain point without going to extremes. I have noticed less overall fat though. I stopped using it on my chest after a few days and just wanted to focus on my abs and love handles.

Hopefully the after pics do your product justice. I know I'm pleased.
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:20 AM (#27) User is offline   Jon 

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I'll be finished with my bottle by tonight. What is everyone else doing as far as pics? I've got some water retention and would like to wait a couple days to get it to subside. Maybe take pics on Friday or Saturday.
I'll post my final impressions at that time.
Everyone looks like they had some nice results.
I'd love to try Napalm with clen. Looking forward to seeing those results from people
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 07:48 PM (#28) User is offline   Jon 

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Here are my after pics. Not as noticeable in the pics as I'd hoped. Oh well, I can see the difference. For me, I mostly notice it in my upper abs and the flab around my belly button doesn't seem to be as bad. The same girl that did my 2nd set of measurements was extremely surprised at everything. I dropped 5lbs, 229 down to 224, and all the important measurements went down.

Effectiveness
I'll give this a 10. I've used regular Lipoderm-Y before and had little results....nothing comparable to Napalm

Ease of application
10-This dried MUCH quicker then Lipoderm-Y. I'd shower, dry, apply, and be ready to dress after less then 5 minutes of waiting for the Napalm to dry

I'd love to try this again, especially with Clen added to it. I'd also like to try 2 bottles for a nice long run. Just as it seemed my results started coming I ran out.

I will definitely be using this again...and will for sure have the wife give it a try. She loved L-Y and I think will have even better results with Napalm.

I'd like to thank AL for giving me the opportunity to try this.

Now I'll begin my DCP/Havoc cycle and post pics of that after a month in the NP subforum

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:40 PM (#29) User is offline   Jon 

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Not 1 comment? Results not good enough?
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:12 PM (#30) User is online   ozzman 

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OK...you look pretty...didn't get much of a response either.

With me it seems the effectiveness slowed down at week three. Now that it has been four weeks off, I would be up to trying it again, likewise with Clen.
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