[Jinx Me]

Anyone have any thoughts on the benefit of adding some apple cider vinegar to my PWO regimen?

I'm low carb during the week - would it be pointless to add it unless I'm consuming more carbs PWO? I could take it daily or just on Saturday with my higher carb PWO meal.

What about buffering it? Is that recommended?

Also, what dose would people suggest?

Finally, would it interfere with absorption of other supps?

Any thoughts are appreciated....

[Max32]

Jinx Me, on May 25 2006, 05:58 AM, said:

Anyone have any thoughts on the benefit of adding some apple cider vinegar to my PWO regimen?

I'm low carb during the week - would it be pointless to add it unless I'm consuming more carbs PWO? I could take it daily or just on Saturday with my higher carb PWO meal.

What about buffering it? Is that recommended?

Also, what dose would people suggest?

Finally, would it interfere with absorption of other supps?

Any thoughts are appreciated....

This is not an area I am proficient in, but am very interested in never-the-less

[Kimbo]

I don't think it's really necessary unless you're taking in carbs. If someone has some reasoning as to why it would be beneficial, though, I'm all ears.

Vinegar actually doesn't lower blood pH, so no need to worry about that. If you're worried about it irritating your esophagus just chase it with something.

[scottyo]

only other concern i would have with any regular usage of vinegar with carbs (which I use alot) is the effects of it on teeth. Similar with powder CEE. After the combo of the two, Ive twice now gone to the dentist who was fairly concerned about the beating the two have on my pearly whites. either that, or im somehow bulemic in my sleep.

[Jinx Me]

Kimbo, on May 25 2006, 02:55 PM, said:

I don't think it's really necessary unless you're taking in carbs. If someone has some reasoning as to why it would be beneficial, though, I'm all ears.

Vinegar actually doesn't lower blood pH, so no need to worry about that. If you're worried about it irritating your esophagus just chase it with something.

Maybe I'll try it before my Saturday PWO meal (which is high carb). How much would you recommend?

[Kimbo]

Jinx Me, on May 25 2006, 03:14 PM, said:

Maybe I'll try it before my Saturday PWO meal (which is high carb). How much would you recommend?

I think most people here are using around 2tbsp per 50g of CHO. I just pour it into a shot glass.

[Jinx Me]

scottyo, on May 25 2006, 03:12 PM, said:

only other concern i would have with any regular usage of vinegar with carbs (which I use alot) is the effects of it on teeth. Similar with powder CEE. After the combo of the two, Ive twice now gone to the dentist who was fairly concerned about the beating the two have on my pearly whites. either that, or im somehow bulemic in my sleep.

Thanks guys!

But just once a week would probably be okay don't ya think?

Also, you could try washing your mouth with a baking soda/water solution after it to neutralize the acid.

[Kimbo]

Jinx Me, on May 25 2006, 03:41 PM, said:

Thanks guys!

But just once a week would probably be okay don't ya think?

Also, you could try washing your mouth with a baking soda/water solution after it to neutralize the acid.

I sometimes munch on a Tums immediately after knocking back my shot.

[eclypz]

I just buy the tablets for crying out loud. 5 bucks for a bazillion.

[raptor2003]

scottyo, on May 25 2006, 11:12 AM, said:

only other concern i would have with any regular usage of vinegar with carbs (which I use alot) is the effects of it on teeth. Similar with powder CEE. After the combo of the two, Ive twice now gone to the dentist who was fairly concerned about the beating the two have on my pearly whites. either that, or im somehow bulemic in my sleep.

sorry but CEE is acidic? what %?

thought being an ester it's neutral or near that ph

[raptor2003]

eclypz, on May 25 2006, 12:49 PM, said:

I just buy the tablets for crying out loud. 5 bucks for a bazillion.

what tabs? u mean tums?

now why whould you guys munch on tums to neutralize the acidity? isn't lowering the ph the purpose here for vinegar to slow down digestion?

or u guys only interested in the acetate ion?

pls elaborate, tks

[Kimbo]

raptor2003, on May 25 2006, 06:13 PM, said:

what tabs? u mean tums?

now why whould you guys munch on tums to neutralize the acidity? isn't lowering the ph the purpose here for vinegar to slow down digestion?

or u guys only interested in the acetate ion?

pls elaborate, tks

Only interested in the acetate. And I think he's talking about apple cider vinegar tabs.

[Josh]

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lso, you could try washing your mouth with a baking soda/water solution after it to neutralize the acid.

Or use a straw.
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[comfortable_pants]

i think it's great for PWO glycogen replinishment, high carb meals, or carb ups. i'd suggest buying sodium acetate from BN and cap it (one 00 cap will be enough for each serving). i also take calcium citrate with it to buffer it's acidity

[Marc McDougal]

Apple Cider Vinegar is a Base, with a PRAL score of (-2.3)

I have used half a shot glass before my PWO shake for the last couple of years, the vinegar tastes much better out of the fridge.

[SupremeDan]

vinegar will allways be good with carbs or not.........mainly because of it´s effects on AMPK increase and malonyl -coa decrease.................

[Jinx Me]

eclypz, on May 25 2006, 04:49 PM, said:

I just buy the tablets for crying out loud. 5 bucks for a bazillion.

are tabs just as good as the vinegar itself? if so, i'm all for that option.

[eclypz]

Jinx Me, on May 25 2006, 06:38 PM, said:

are tabs just as good as the vinegar itself? if so, i'm all for that option.

Just give it a little more time in your tummy to dissolve before eating...