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    Default Best Paleo friendly pre and post workout foods?

    Can you share your thoughts on the best pre and post work out nutrition please? Specifically Paleo friendly foods. Thanks!
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    There's a ton of opinions on pre and post workout nutrition from what I've studied. With the minimal amount of complex carbohydrates in the paleo diet, sometimes the post workout nutrition protocol may become difficult. Personally I believe that the paleo diet should not be used consistently as a standard for nutrition, especially when training consistently. The body needs complex carbohydrates and they are actually very healthy and beneficial to someone trying to lose fat or maintain a healthy weight - people just get carried away with them. I've had a few clients who switched to the paleo diet against my recommendations (due to their training) and soon enough they figured out the hard way with why I suggest something different. Without complex carbohydrates during the time of day that they're needed most, your energy will deplete slowly but surely. My clients would be great for a week, maybe two, then out of nowhere their strength decreased and they had very little energy to finish their workouts.

    here's my recommendations:
    Pre-workout: Studies show that consuming complex carbohydrates in the meal BEFORE your workout will actually effect your release of seratonin in the brain thus causing less focus and drive to get through workouts. Try to keep your carbs below 15grams in this meal. Go with high protein, healthy fats and plenty of veggies. What a difference, believe me!

    Post-workout: Your body needs some form of simple fast-digesting sugars immediately post workout along with a high amount of protein. I suggest having these nutrients in liquid form right after you finish working out, then about an hour to an hour and a half later, have your food meal. Your post workout shake is there to first replenish your glycogen stores in the muscles to recover energy, and second to break down the protein into amino acids that help recover your muscles. If the sugars aren't there, your body will convert protein into the energy it needs - we don't want that!
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    What is the best/optimal timing of food intake pre-wod?
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    I always recommend to consume a food meal of some sort pre-workout no more than 2 hours prior to training. This timing will be based on how many meals you're consuming during the day of course. Chances are, if you're feel starving while you train then you waited too long after your last meal to workout. I've found that consuming that preworkout meal at one hour before training works the best. But this may be different for you or anyone else. I suggest changing up your pre workout meal times to see what feels best for you. My metabolism is extremely fast so an hour is even pushing it. If you have complex carbs in your meal then the timing will need to be longer given that these carbs are more-slowly digested.
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    I disagree, your body does not NEED carbohydrates, it can function perfectly well without carbohydrates. Your body can turn protein into glucose via gluconeogensis. However, carbohydrates are advisable for fueling intense weight training workouts.

    Fasted training has its merits as well, studies have shown it can actually improve performance, increase insulin sensitivity and testosterone. You don't need to eat pre-workout.

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    It all depends on where your glycogen levels are when the workout takes place. Gluconeogenisis is a bad word for anyone looking to put on mass and build solid muscle. The whole goal is for the protein to be used to repair the muscle tissue, not to be turned into energy. Muscle wasting will take effect if that kind of nutrition protocol is sustained for a long period of time. While limited fasted training has been shown to do great things, continuous fasting is just insanity for anyone that trains hard a regular basis. I personally have eliminated carbs pre workout due to the leaning out phase I'm currently in for a photoshoot. Plus it helps to keep my focus throughout the workout. Complex carbs are just added in later on. I believe in keeping the hard earned muscle that I have, not letting it waste away.

    Based on your question though, it all just depends on your goal. Athletic performance and bodybuilding obviously have complete differences as far as nutrition and training. I probably should have mentioned that more earlier
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    And I never said that the body needs carbs pre-workout. To recover effectively though, I 100% believe in having a simple carb POST workout. So gluconeogenesis doesn't take place.
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    You don't need to instantly refuel glycogen reserves post-workout to build muscle. Studies have shown that consuming carbohydrates post-workout does not increase protein synthesis as long as protein intake is sufficient.

    The OP didn't say he is aiming to bulk either.

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    Yeah I realize that because the specific goal wasn't stated earlier. But yes, if enough protein is ingested post workout, the body will convert it according to the energy needs to maintain homeostasis. that's a lot of extra protein though. Whatever suits your needs! That's the beauty in it though, there is not one specific correct answer to get to your desired goal.
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    What I really do is that i eat half an apple with a handful of nuts before workout, just because it's quick and I'm in a hurry to get to the gym and as far as Postworkout is considered I would prolly eat another half of my apple from way back to the gym. And at home, i cook a meal that is full of proteins say some meaty meals or carbohydrates rich food. Also after gym i prefer to eat some choclates as they are quick energy boosters but not the pure ones, say nutty choclates.

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