Ive been desparately scouring the forums in search for a little help without much success. So far I have read the other thread started by Elijah and the clomid thread to gain a little knowledge, but I am still a little lost.
Anyway, heres a little info I posted on another forum about the problem;
Im 32, about 85kg @ maybe 17% bf. I currently live in Thailand. Never done TRT or steroids.
Diet is Paleo-ish, Ive done a few programs recently like SS and 531, and have been working out since i was 18.
I went to an Endo in March bacause I was absolutely fried. I couldn't sleep, kept waking up at 2-3am on my workout days, even some of the off days, and could NOT fall asleep again. I thought it was adrenal fatigue, but my test results came back with "low test"
Free T4 1.00 ng/dl (0.65 - 1.26)
TSH 1.299 uU/ml (0.340-5.6)
Cortisol 15.8 ug/dl
ACTH 27.4 pg/ml
Total T 438 ng/dl
SHBG 49. nmol/l (10-60)
Albumin 39 gm/l (38 - 50)
Free Androgen Index 30
Free Test. 72 pg/ml (90-300)
% Free Test. 1.63% (2-4.8)
Bioavailable Test. 153 ng/dl
LH 1.61 mIU/ml
Prolactin 7.05 ng/ml (3.4 - 19.4)
ALT 25 u/l (0 - 44)
FPG 82 mg/dl (70 - 99)
Total T 377 ng/dl
SHBG 37.2 nmol/l
Albumin 38 gm/l
Free androgen index 35
Free Test. 75 pg/ml (90-300)
% Free Test. 1.99 (2-4.8)
Bioavailable Test. 156 ng/dl
I did an MRI, no abnormalities.
This is where it gets frustrating;
-Doctor first says I have low test. Then, before prescribing Andriol (80mg/day), he says that my test isnt really that low. Wtf?
-Doctor did not test for DHEA, PSA, or E2.
-I asked if I needed an AI, or checking for liver and estrogen problems before taking the meds, he said that I would "probably" be ok.
-No real source of the low T was explained to me.
I had enough of that, and went to another endo. Other endo said I did not have low T. When I asked him about my low Free Test, Bioavailable test numbers he couldnt explain what they were or why they would be low, or how that impacted total Test.
-He then tells me I have to exercise and take vitamins! (I asked him how much I should squat a week, and tried to get his opinion on a decent strength traning program just for ****s and giggles. Then I showed him my protable vitamin container, stuffed to the brim...)
-He says that if I go on TRT, and I wanted to stop, all I have to do is stop. I dont need to take anything else to reactivate my own system.
-Did a test for PSA, and E2.
-He prescribed Nebido after sticking his finger in my bum. At least it was worth it...
June: (After three weeks on andriol @ 80mg a day)
PSA 0.651 ng/dl (0 - 4.0)
E2 15.6 pg/ml (7.6 - 42.6)
1) Is my test low? Do I really need TRT?
2) What are the chances of trying TRT for a few months, then just stopping and being fine without having to take anything else to restart my own system?
3) Any idea what the problem might be? Alternative suggestions, the like?
I know the post was long, but honestly I have nowhere else to turn for my information because all the docs I have talked to here have their head in their a$$. Thanks for reading this far and any help you can offer!