Blood Work just in. 5-6 weeks trenavar, 10 days PCT

[teknoslam]

Just got results in for some blood work i took yesterday. This follows a 6 week Trenavar cycle, and about 10 days of PCT. I was scheduled to get pre-pct blood, but had to cancel due to hectic work schedule, so this is the best i could do.

Cycle Recap: Trenavar - 5-6 weeks. 45/45/60/60/75/75mg. Fantastic results, except tweaked my wrist the last week and had to take 2 weeks off from the gym. I had gained about 20lbs (clean bulk diet). Not sure where i stand now, given the injury. On cylcle, took NAC/Milk Thistle daily, as well as the occasional dose of TUDCA as a precaution.

PCT - draw was 10 days in.
-Clomid 3 day front load 100, 3 days 50mg, 25mg EOD.
-DAA - E-pharm TF2. 3.5g/day

Results
The Good:

Lipids:
Total Cholesterol - 163
HDL - 55
LDL - 98
VLDL- 10

Liver Function
AST - 18
ALT - 22
Everything else in range as well (bulirubin, alkaline phos, etc, etc)

The Bad:
I realize it's just 10 days in, but still..
Test Serum - 55 (Range 348-1197)
LH: 1.1 (Range 1.7-8.6)

The OK

FSH 1.7 (Range 1.5-12.4) in range but low
Estradiol 13.1 (Range 7.6-42). In range


What do you guys think? I am happy to see solid lipid & liver values. Trenavar seems quite suppressive (granted i was experimenting with pretty high doses). Do my values seem low for LH/TEST for 10 days of PCT?

[GaWd]

Like we discussed in the chatbox:

You went real short at 50mg ED. Your 25mg dose should probably need to be taken ED instead of EOD.

Otherwise double your TF2.

[((Vibe))]

I'd say the trenazone is going to be pretty suppresive being a nandrolone derivative (as you already alluded to). Might want to run the clomid for another 4 weeks and get more bloodwork done. (I don't always get BW done, but subjectively I don't usualyy start to feel normal until ~5 weeks into PCT)

[teknoslam]

Thanks Vibe, going to up the Clomid for about 2 weeks and re test.

FYI it was the new IBE/PHF Trenavar (trendione, the trenbolone prohormone), not the trenazone (dienolone). Regardless, you are right. Quite suppressive.

[((Vibe))]

Thanks Vibe, going to up the Clomid for about 2 weeks and re test.

FYI it was the new IBE/PHF Trenavar (trendione, the trenbolone prohormone), not the trenazone (dienolone). Regardless, you are right. Quite suppressive.

Oops I mispoke. Thanks for the correction.

So it sounds like a pretty successful cycle (20 lbs wow!). What kind of sides, if any, did you experience on cycle. And how did you feel on cycle?

[GaWd]

I found dienolone absolutely suppressive.

[Benson]

Those look fine to me.

Your LH is starting to come back up and your T levels will follow.

Liver and lipids are stellar.

[teknoslam]

Thanks Benson. Ill update the boards after I have another set of bloodwork to compare it to. To a point you made after discussing your EPI bloodwork...It's always interesting to compare the subjective feelings surrounding shutdown, Relative to the real numbers. It can tell a very different story.

Very happy with the liver/lipids. The trenavar at high doses felt very strong, so I was a bit worried it was causing some liver and/or kidney stress. Im very happy that was not the case. I think I will stack it next time, and go for some synergy with something like UD, etc.

[teknoslam]

Strength and recovery was excellent. New PRs on most of my lifts.

Sides: after about 3 weeks and kicking it up to 75mgs lethargy started to kick in. The lethargy was compounded by some sleep issues (woke up many times throughout the night). I didn't get the "sweats" like some did. Libido tanked week 3 or 4. Also, at 75mgs, I became very irritable. also, at week 5-6 my joints started acting up (shoulder and knee mainly), but could have been the extra weight I was carrying.

Next time I run trenavar (I will def run again)...4-5 weeks instead of 6, and I'll top out at 60mg instead of 75. I think I could circumvent some of the sides with that strategy.

Also, Will probably stack it with something, now that I know it doesn't stress my liver/lipids. Possibly with UD, Mentdione, or a transdermal test base (thinking of mixing up a homebrew).

[((Vibe))]

Good info. Thanks for the very thorough review. I went to purchase it, but it went out of stock yesterday. Doh!