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    Does anyone know what a light to average dosage of GBL is? I have information on GHB dosage as far as powder goes, but this doesn't help obviously as we are talking about GBL in liquid form. I have heard that 1.0-1.5ml is a good dosage but I would like to hear other opinions.



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    if u have a bunch of GBL, then it might be worthwhile to acquire some sodium hydroxide and make it into GHB. u can do that in ur kitchen. recipes are all over the net...



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    1ml of pure GBL = 1.65g of Na-GHB



    A good relaxing/mood enhancing dose would be .5 - 1ml



    Fuck you up dose = 1.5-2ml



    Knock you out dose = 3ml



    This assumes you are around 200lbs and have not built a tolerance.


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    Thanks par.....



    I am not particularly interested in synthesizing it to GHB as I can carry Gbl legally as long as its under certain product names... Par, do you think there is a difference in the effects felt from gbl and ghb? My guess what that there wouldn't be as gbl converts directly to ghb but you never know.



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    GBL hits faster and harder, because it does not require active transport to reach the bloostream. It is also more bioavailable, likely due to faster clearance from the stomach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Par Deus' date='Jul 31 2002, 11:26 AM
    GBL hits faster and harder, because it does not require active transport to reach the bloostream. It is also more bioavailable, likely due to faster clearance from the stomach.
    Would you say that this onset/coming up is not desirable? Does GHB bring one up more steadily?

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    Yes, GHB is smoother.



    You can pretty much mimick it with GBL by making a drink and sipping it over 30 minutes, instead of doing it all at once like a shot (which is how most do GHB)


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    I would assume that if one is drinking gbl, they would want to get it overwith as quickly as possibly. A solvent must not taste very good...heh... I wonder if certain drinks mask the taste better than others...

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    How long does it take before peak effects are noticed on GBL? In other words, how long should one wait before taking more? I believe I have read that ghb/gbl effects are kind of exponential as well, for lack of a better term - where as the difference in effects from .5ml to 1ml are less than 1ml to 1.5ml for example...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosyourdaddy02' date='Aug 1 2002, 11:08 PM
    I would assume that if one is drinking gbl, they would want to get it overwith as quickly as possibly.* A solvent must not taste very good...heh...* I wonder if certain drinks mask the taste better than others...


    Kool-Aid works extremely well. I really cannot taste it anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whosyourdaddy02' date='Aug 3 2002, 05:29 PM
    How long does it take before peak effects are noticed on GBL?* In other words, how long should one wait before taking more?* I believe I have read that ghb/gbl effects are kind of exponential as well, for lack of a better term - where as the difference in effects from .5ml to 1ml are less than 1ml to 1.5ml for example...


    30 minutes is a good time-frame.



    It is not really that the effects increase exponentially, it is just that there is a threshold dose from feeling good to being twisted, and it is at about the 1.5ml mark for GBL, for non-regular users.


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    I'm sure this has been addressed before, and I have read and enjoy your articles Par, but I'm wondering what the easiest way to get my hands on some GBL is? Where can it be found?

    I take it you just self-administer a small amount and then consume one to two alcoholic beverages in conjunction in order to feel inebriated. I like to drink (southern comfort, oh dead), but the cals certainly do add up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkarrde' date='Aug 6 2002, 10:36 AM
    I'm sure this has been addressed before, and I have read and enjoy your articles Par, but I'm wondering what the easiest way to get my hands on some GBL is? Where can it be found?

    I take it you just self-administer a small amount and then consume one to two alcoholic beverages in conjunction in order to feel inebriated. I like to drink (southern comfort, oh dead), but the cals certainly do add up...




    GBL has been banned for human use, i'm not sure what other non-human uses there are for GBL. If there are any, it would make acquiring it much easier.
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    Par, have you ever thought of making a GBL-transdermal? just for fun. Its molecular weight is about 86, so it should be able to absorb through the skin easily. Although it is a mild skin irritant...



    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_datasheet.pdf
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    Hmmmm..that sounds interesting... I wonder how it might increase bioavailability if any... The taste isn't all that bad and you don't need to drink much so I don't see it being as practical in that sense... but just for fun, it might be an interesting test...

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    The bioavailability is already much higher than a transdermal would be. The time released aspect would be interesting, particularly for use as an anti-depressant. Also, I think it might prove to be more than a mild skin irritant.



    There is a GHB analogue that has a half-life of like 13 hours.



    As for finding GBL, read the alt.drug.ghb usenet group.


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    Not to resurrect an old thread or anything, but it's really okey to drink straight GBL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broshious' post='365722' date='Oct 7 2006, 06:57 PM

    Not to resurrect an old thread or anything, but it's really okey to drink straight GBL?


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    Can someone PM me on where you can find it? Seems hard to find...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimas' post='365769' date='Oct 7 2006, 10:47 PM

    Can someone PM me on where you can find it? Seems hard to find...


    check your pm

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